January 2021 State of the Jazz Address

[KqWIN]

He was a top end talent the entire series against Denver. We didn't lose because Don wasn't a superstar. He was a superstar in that series. We lost because we didn't have enough perimeter defending. There is no way he could have carried us on offense if he was the one who had to stop Murray too.

Putting our entire team on Don is so dumb. He can't do it all.

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If that is the player Don is, then we're good. I don't think that's the player he is. He's not a 36 PPG player who shoots 50% from 3. But if he is that player, sure, a perimeter defender is our most pressing need.

The entire team isn't on Don. But Don is the only one capable of elevating this team. A perimeter defender does not elevate us to being a contender. Don being a superstar is what keeps us from being a contender. No one else can do that.

 

[jom2003]

2019, Korver
2020, Clarkson
2021, who's next? Good news is that our savior won't come at the expense of our draft picks thus time cuz there is no more pick to give.

 

[hgb]

Don - foundational piece and one for the long term
Pro's - he's a fantastic offensive player who is still improving
Con's - not a good defender

Also definitely on the cons list, he has _way_ too many TOs, very many of them just poor decisions. A fair amount of his completed passes are also quite lucky, and was really a bad decision that happened to work out IMO.

 

[jom2003]

Bojan was just on fire last game. I really doubt he has fallen off after a career year just because of a wrist injury. He'll work through it.

One good game followed by three horrible games. What else is new. Joe Johnson already done that for us. In playoffs too, which Bojan didn't even play. Except when Iso Joe finally start giving us one good game followed by five poor games we finally lost our cool and traded his *** away. Just not sure how many draft picks would it take us this time to unload Bojan’s much more horrendous contract.

 

[SoUjazzfan]

It will be interesting to see Mitchell's reaction to upcoming criticism and all star snub if he continues to struggle. Will he sulk and blame those around him, or step it up. It was mentioned last night ( or perhaps against Brooklyn) how he was pointing out missed assignments on defense during a time out when he'd been beat multiple times. I think it's good to have accountability but you have to look in the mirror on occasion. To this point this year he's talked the talk, I just hope he starts walking the walk. (Personally I feel he will.)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

One good game followed by three horrible games. What else is new. Joe Johnson already done that for us. In playoffs too, which Bojan didn't even play. Except when Iso Joe finally start giving us one good game followed by five poor games we finally lost our cool and traded his *** away. Just not sure how many draft picks would it take us this time to unload Bojan’s much more horrendous contract.

Jazz would get a 1st rounder and expiring contracts back for Bogey, bare minimum. You are way overreacting, but that's your thing I guess.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It will be interesting to see Mitchell's reaction to upcoming criticism and all star snub if he continues to struggle. Will he sulk and blame those around him, or step it up. It was mentioned last night ( or perhaps against Brooklyn) how he was pointing out missed assignments on defense during a time out when he'd been beat multiple times. I think it's good to have accountability but you have to look in the mirror on occasion. To this point this year he's talked the talk, I just hope he starts walking the walk. (Personally I feel he will.)

He isnt playing nearly well enough for it to be considered a snub.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It will be interesting to see Mitchell's reaction to upcoming criticism and all star snub if he continues to struggle. Will he sulk and blame those around him, or step it up. It was mentioned last night ( or perhaps against Brooklyn) how he was pointing out missed assignments on defense during a time out when he'd been beat multiple times. I think it's good to have accountability but you have to look in the mirror on occasion. To this point this year he's talked the talk, I just hope he starts walking the walk. (Personally I feel he will.)

His struggles this year are weird. He's just so unfocused and generally just off. I'm officially worried and hope he is right physically and mentally.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Ryan Smith figured out how to fix this... offering a scholarship to an under- privileged kid for every win. Don't hustle and try hard every night... well I guess you are against education of under-privileged kids. If this doesn't work he will start donating a $1M to cancer research... the nuclear option is for every loss he will murder a puppy... everyone is pro-puppy.

Side note outside of the jokes... pretty cool thing for Ryan to do.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think it's extremely stupid to reduce everything down to the backcourt is too small that's why they can't defend.

Remember, on the perimeter wingspan is typically more important than reach. Both Mitchell and Conley have giant wingspans relative to their height.

Conley has a 6'6 WS and Mitchell a 6'10. Even Clarkson has a 6'10 wingspan.

I get that standing reach is also obviously a factor, but even if you account for that, then the two metrics would average out to the backcourt being average sized at worst. I think it's just such an easy thing to harp on and scapegoat since height is the easiest thing to see.

Having the wing span and using the wing span are 2 different things. If wing span is the deciding factor why are Conley and Mitchell not DPOY candidates, or even decent defenders, or get toasted by bigger and taller players on the reg. All things being equal, a 6'6" player with a 6'10" wing span will be more dominant than a 6'1" player with a 6'10" wing span. Because there is a lot more to it than wing span.

It is almost like you are reducing perimeter D to wing span. Hmmm.

 

[LogGrad98]

His struggles this year are weird. He's just so unfocused and generally just off. I'm officially worried and hope he is right physically and mentally.

Actually I am beginning to question his BBIQ. He often gets into spots where it is obvious he has no idea what to do, like he can't read the play. His iso is so good, and his athleticism and pure scoring skill is so solid, that we don't see the other parts of the game so much...when he is on. Now that he isn't "on" we are seeing that he isn't a very good decision-maker when under pressure, and he often makes a bad read. Does he just really not get the entirety of the game? Think about his greatest performances, they are almost exclusively him scoring off hero-ball, and going nuclear. Alone. He doesn't rack up triple-doubles, he doesn't get high assist numbers, or steals. He is just not a complete player, and the parts he is missing are the parts we are generally missing as a team. That is a huge void to fill. And with his offensive game MIA he is a negative on the court in general, even if he does chuck enough to get his 20 points.

I am very worried indeed. Fools gold can look really good until you get it under the microscope.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Having the wing span and using the wing span are 2 different things. If wing span is the deciding factor why are Conley and Mitchell not DPOY candidates, or even decent defenders, or get toasted by bigger and taller players on the reg. All things being equal, a 6'6" player with a 6'10" wing span will be more dominant than a 6'1" player with a 6'10" wing span. Because there is a lot more to it than wing span.

It is almost like you are reducing perimeter D to wing span. Hmmm.

You completely misread that, so try again.