It's really quite simple. Look at 3rd place Spurs. They're at 36-25. They have 21 games left. Assuming, for argument's sake, they win at same rate they've been winning (0.59). That's 12-9. So the Jazz would have to win 17 games, finishing 17-5, to end up ahead of the Spurs. This is mathematically possible, do you agree? It applies as well to any team as it does the Spurs, yes? It's also within the realms of possibility as things go. Sometimes teams do win 17 out of 22. I was responding to the post about "simple math". A quick look shows it isn't so. Your "logic" thing is just your projection of where the Jazz will end up. You're, at best, describing an educated guess. Not logic, which cannot be disputed.