Joe Bagadonuts
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How can you ever forgive me for clicking on your link and not figuring out that ESPN was playing a trick on you? And by the way, my fingers are neither fat nor little.
Jazz a middling franchise?
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Wake the **** up bro. It's all a formula based on perception. They sell what we want to hear, year after year. There's no innovative thinking at the top. It's all about copying a model and selling it to fans. Think about it. How many times did Larry let slip that they needed to make playoff revenue to hit his targeted ROI?
Millers don't care about championships and they screwed over two of the best and most dedicated and loyal players ever in the name of profits. LHM said as much.
Everybody loves a winner. I don't know how they judged franchises but being in the middle is pretty good considering how bad the Jazz were last year. Rarely being on TV certainly impacts the ranking. The Spurs deserve the #1 ranking, they are a class organization and it is nice to see that they are getting kudos for playing great basketball. For years announcers were calling them boring, but if you are a basketball fan their performance in last years finals was for the ages. Hopefully, the Jazz can copy the Spurs model and have some of the same success in the future.
I don't know who would take him with the contract he just signed. Personally, I wouldn't trade him now. I think all these guys are going to perform better with Synder as the head coach. No he isn't the miracle man but just some of his comments about running and passing more makes me think Quinn has a plan.
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1. San Antonio Spurs 1 8 1 1 3 18 1 1 5
2. Memphis Grizzlies 4 6 13 32 1 2 6 68 62
3. Oklahoma City Thunder 7 9 14 25 23 27 10 88 47
4. Dallas Mavericks 9 49 5 13 19 11 14 10 17
5. Indiana Pacers 18 1 65 30 8 25 92 66 68
6. Charlotte Hornets 29 27 30 56 14 45 41 33 79
7. Portland Trail Blazers 33 41 27 29 53 32 20 40 64
8. Miami Heat 34 62 20 16 65 43 35 45 24
9. Atlanta Hawks 48 37 46 72 28 83 45 38 94
10. Houston Rockets 49 46 70 44 54 50 68 89 45
11. Golden State Warriors 52 42 29 76 80 73 25 85 72
12. Chicago Bulls 53 86 41 61 87 52 8 11 35
13. Los Angeles Clippers 59 50 68 107 68 77 28 15 63
14. Phoenix Suns 64 74 69 78 59 82 40 30 92
15. New Orleans Pelicans 65 45 75 65 35 96 85 94 81
TEAM RNK BNG FRL OWN AFF STX PLA CCH TTR
16. Boston Celtics 66 111 52 41 75 75 61 54 28
17. Utah Jazz 68 89 55 39 27 58 87 101 102
Don't know bro, Hard to sell me ATL, CHA, NO and likely a few others are a better run organization than the Jazz. Winning does account for these ranking which does hurt, but only a few mistakes IMO and those being holding onto Corbin for so long and not flipping assets when we obviously had no intention of keeping them (Al, Paul, Mwill). We are rebuilding and everyone knows it. Loses are to be expected.
Joe Bagadonuts
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The fact that profitability mattered to Larry is not evidence that he was not in it to win a championship. His fire and passion for winning was obvious to anyone who was not so busy reading between the lines that they miss the obvious in the process.
Larry was a self made billionaire because of his attention to the numbers. That was a strength, not a weakness, of the way he ran his businesses and his team.
I'm not talking about only the last couple years. Name me a single thing the Jazz have done that's not only taking a chance but doing it in an innovative way. They play it safe every time and try to sell playoff tickets. It's burned us with them not willing to think outside the box, especially when it comes to young white boys with promise. We were tanking last year and everyone knew Hayward would get a huge offer. They couldn't have traded him for assets and improved lotto position? Then signed Bledsoe and Stevenson? When was the last time a Baron Davis was brought in? Never.
Greg already told us the Jazz will never go into the luxury tax as long as his family owners them. It's a business and they are playing fans like fools.
Cool story bro but I've already heard this from Larry's pr machine a million times.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I'm pretty sure you're just trollin' for a reaction.
With that said I never heard or read those quotes from Greg about never going into the luxury tax (but I think his dad may have said something to that effect) however if he did say that I think I understand your hatred because that would make him a LIAR! In his first two seasons taking over (the first his dad was still a live) he went over the tax, so how can you trust a liar..... well that is assuming you are correct that Greg did say that and that you're not a liar.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Oh and I haven't read the article but to say the Jazz are a "middling" franchise, if you just base on the post DWill era than from a national perspective I would have to agree. Going back to when the franchise moved to Utah then no, I would have to say they are at worst a top 10 franchise. I do think the Jazz have overcome a lot at once and it takes time to recover from that and I think they are doing a good job at it, not perfect by any stretch not close to it but a good job still.
Oh and whoever mentioned ATL as being better run, Danny Ferry and soon to be ex majority owner would like you to call them, I think they're interested in working for you. You also included the Pelicans as better run I would not think so and not even close, however they did get the Saints owner so things could be trending up with him running the show now.
Oh and whoever mentioned ATL as being better run, Danny Ferry and soon to be ex majority owner would like you to call them, I think they're interested in working for you. You also included the Pelicans as better run I would not think so and not even close, however they did get the Saints owner so things could be trending up with him running the show now.
How many of these do the Millers send out to cover their slip ups? "Heyhey never said that" is the best they could come up with?