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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Bawse Dawg said:
What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to admit our star player is giving terrible effort in a playoff series, but still blame a gameplan and the dudes coaching on the bench?

Please tell me what system, or coaching adjustment would have made Mitchell care more. And then ask yourself why he didn't care already.
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You think we lost a playoff series because one of our players sometimes didn't try as hard as possible? That's pretty stupid.

Our roster construction and system have been the main issues for a while now. Don has to try more, but the lack of perimeter defenders period is more important. Conley's performance was more damning.

Our whole team tried damn hard against the Clippers, and we still fell apart.


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Mongoose said:
Somebody obviously giving piss poor or minimal effort is not a ****ing scapegoat dude... Mitchell will be learning that in NY. You want to call him a ****ing star franchise player and in the same breadth call him a scapegoat? Guess what dude, he either carries that responsibility or he doesn't, and all indications are that he doesn't- he ****ing checked out and now he's getting traded.
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He carries blame as he should. Carrying all the blame is stupid.

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fishonjazz said:
PK sucks. His shtick is too rile people up by saying outlandish things. He also thinks he is hilarious. His morning show partner, DJ, is much better and more level headed and serious. I much prefer DJ to PK.


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Good context. Like I said I don't really know who he is, I was going off other media guys like Andy Larsen saying they don't think he would make it up.

Definitely sounds like he could be saying stuff based off the sketchiest of leads.
 
LoPo said:
I know I'm annoying. Not trying to be. Just want this sorted and I'm just over the constant Donovan bashing.

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I think you get piled on way too much. More than any poster. I dont have a problem with your posts.


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Bawse Dawg said:
What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to admit our star player is giving terrible effort in a playoff series, but still blame a gameplan and the dudes coaching on the bench?

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Both can be true imo. I think mitchell was a horrible defender with littke to no effort. So does lopo. Lopo thinks quin and the system he used played a part in the horrible perimeter defense. I think that as well.


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LoPo said:
You think we lost a playoff series because one of our players sometimes didn't try as hard as possible? That's pretty stupid.
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A star player not showing up for a playoff series contributing to a loss. Silly me for thinking such crazy things.

LoPo said:
Don has to try more, but the lack of perimeter defenders period is more important.
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Bro… these are the same problems. Where does Mitchell defend?
 
MT Steve said:
It's okay for you to have a different opinion.

It's also okay for other people to disagree with said different opinion.
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Also, being like "Rudy was worse on defense than Don" isnt an opinion. It's just that person being ignorant. Opinions are like chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla.

It's like someone saying "Slavery wasnt bad" then getting mad that you cant have an opinion when everyone is like yeah it is moron.
 
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