Jazz, George Hill taking contract talks down to wire

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  1. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Then the Jazz, smartly, did not offer 88m nonsense. Thank God.
     
  2. stitches

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  3. Lord Bullingdon

    Lord Bullingdon Well-Known Member

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    If I'm his agent I'd be furious with that offer..
     
  4. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    This is definitely worrying. Hopefully it all works out.
     
  5. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I agree. Now entirely likely that Hill bolts to the Spurs this off season. That also makes things tougher when it comes to Hayward.
     
  6. Lord Bullingdon

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    It'll be hilarious if greed ends up being the deathknell for this current team, stories like that are always funny to me..

    It was totally unnecessary and preventable..



    Some of the best advice I ever got was after losing a game of chess my victorious opponent said "If you weren't so greedy I don't think I could beat you"

    In sports there's all-sorts of shoulda woulda coulda teams like that.. Ultimately greed destroy many of these able-bodied teams..

    the concept of a team is fragmented into salary allocation so I don't understand why so many people kick and scream over maneuvering in a preemptive way.. This is the nature of the game..

    at it's core though the concept of a team will always be individuals sacrificing for the betterment of the unit.. In the NBA this happens in the form of Agents signing ****ty deals and ripping their clients off, like Steph Curry..

    Lets also not forget there's an element of hyper-competetive athletes involved, they're certainly competitive when it comes to the size of their contracts too...
     
  7. Stifle Tower

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    Sign Hill and Gordon is virtually 100% certain to re-sign. Let Hill dangle and Gordon may waffle. One of the two had to commit first. Hill was willing to do so.

    If Utah trots out Dante/Neto as the PG duo next year, Jazz are fighting for the 8th seed. Does Hayward want that? If I were Gordon and DL had the chance to extend a good friend, ensuring the team would be fighting for a top seed, then didn't, I'd go to Boston.

    Call me overly dramatic, but I DL just put at risk a franchise player. Won't be one bit surprised to see Hill in SA, Gordon in Boston and the Jazz stuck in the worst possible situation: not bad enough to get a top lottery pick and not good enough to compete.
     
  8. Bawse Dawg

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    Starting a Point Guard for the Utah Jazz: Cap Space!

    Phew, thank god we still have that grand ole flexible cap space. That big free agent who has literally never come to Utah is on his way. I just know it.
     
  9. Hotdog

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    George Hill will be turning 31 in May. He is not going to get any better. He is not going to start being less fragile. This is where the body starts to take a down turn. You don't pay someone like him a max like contract. He has never been close to being an all-star. He is barely above average. You want to pay him like he has been this great player all along?

    Just say no to overpaying George Hill. These are the type of deals that come back to haunt you. I hate Exum, but I'd rather take my chances with him. If George Hill would accept a reasonable deal for an aging average point guard then yes. But you dont pay him like he is an all-star.

    C'mon people. Seriously. A 31 year old George Hill. Really?

    I think this is a case of people forgetting what its like to have a decent point guard after watching what we have had after Dwill for so long.

    Look elsewhere. Trade for a younger player like Tyus Jones and hope you get something similar for or a lot less. At least there is hope that the player can get better.
     
  10. Hotdog

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    **** Hill. You let him try and get that somewhere else. If he does, you laugh at the clowns who gave him a max.
     
  11. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Good lord that is a terrible take. Tyus Jones can offer something similar? Good lord.
     
  12. MT Steve

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    No extension. This is terrible news.
     
  13. ♪alt13

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    That leak was certainly from Hill's agent. It's still early in the day, perhaps he's just trying to make DL sweat. I doubt he believes Hill can get a better offer elsewhere.
     
  14. Utah Jazz Newsfeed

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    Salt Lake Tribune - Utah Jazz: Extension talks with Hill break off before deadline

    Contract negotiations between the Utah Jazz and guard Geroge Hill’s representatives have broken off before the deadline for contact extension, which is at 9:59 p.m. MT, The Tribune has learned.Hill is averaging 17.7 points and 3.4 rebounds per game this season.ESPN’s Tim MacMahon initially reported the Jazz and Hill’s representatives were working on a deal before the deadline.The Tribune will update this story shortly.

    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/4995419-155/utah-jazz-extension-talks-with-hill
     
  15. Bawse Dawg

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    I just hope that we don't give Hayward the max. I mean LeBron James makes the max. Is Hayward as good as LeBron James?

    If Hayward leaves then we will have SO much cap space. We'll probably win a title with that much cap space.
     
  16. stitches

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    Actually I take that back. The more correct take is probably that the Jazz didn't want to give him the 88M. If Hill knew that this is the max we can offer and he wanted more, he wouldn't have even come to negotiations.
     
  17. Hotdog

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    He is turning 31.

    Has anyone not noticed what happens to players after 30? Or how well fat contracts work out on players past 30 who are not the elite players? And even the elite players sometimes can not live up to their contracts. You would have to be a fool to give Hill a huge contract.
     
  18. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Hayward is a top 20 player in the NBA. You don't pay anyone you have the max because "well, he's what we have!". You want to be paying a 32 year old 25m a year to put up 15 points and a couple of assists? Hell no. Sign him to a reasonable contract, or look for someone else.
     
  19. Stifle Tower

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    Durant will be opting out. Let Hayward go and sign Durant. Then trade our garbage for Lillard. Git it done, Dennis!
     
  20. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Hill strengths are shooting, defense, and vocal leadership. I think Dante can replace his D, but the other two things would be sorely missed.

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