NotDeadYet
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Super! They all want to win, so they will work it out. Panic subsiding...
I wonder how many of the teams ahead of us in the SLTRIB's stats have 6 new players and 3 new starters....?
Jazz still not watching film together
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Super! They all want to win, so they will work it out. Panic subsiding...
I wonder how many of the teams ahead of us in the SLTRIB's stats have 6 new players and 3 new starters....?
I think Sloan is a good coach. Not a great coach. He has done wonders for this franchise and the team. He's been the face of the coaching staff for a very long time and I respect him highly. That said, he has certain aspects that I completely deplore.
anonymous832
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Sometimes it's amusing to just sit back and see what some of you people think you know. Whether Sloan is right or wrong on this issue isn't really relevant. What's relevant to me is the kind of completely asinine comments on this thread - "that's Coaching 101!," "he's not doing his job," etc, etc. - as if Sloan is some random clueless retard that's somehow unaware of the possibilities of film study, or has decided to reject a tactic that is somehow guaranteed to improve the team. Why do we know it's guaranteed to help the team? Why, because a few idiots on a message board INSIST that it's "coaching fundamentals" and that Sloan is "not doing his job" if he doesn't do it. As if any of them knows the first thing about coaching. ("By jove, if we'd been STUDYING FILM AS A TEAM last year, we would have won 73 games instead of a measly 53!") I certainly don't think it's out of bounds for fans to criticize their coaches, and sometimes they/you/we are going to be right. But the level of self-important delusion in this thread is staggering. Maybe Sloan has good reasons for not having team sessions, maybe he doesn't, and maybe he's just being too stubbornly set in his ways - I don't know. But just because something is conventional wisdom doesn't mean it's the only way to get things done. Every coach has their own idiosyncracies and different ways they prepare and train and practice and judge and game-plan and adjust. Yet somehow you all have this cut-and-dried concept of what Jerry is "supposed" to do, as if it's really that elementary?
carolinajazz
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...if Sloan doesn't want the team watching film together, it must be for a good reason. I suspect he wants them to lose.
Well then make him player /coach and get rid of Sloan. It is not the captain's job to be the coach. His job is to make sure that his teammates do what the coach says and if there are issues then the captain (DW) talks with the coach.
I agree with this. It is too bad some of you are not as smart as anonymousB32. I liked this part in particular. "The level of self-important delusion in this thread is staggering".
He didn't claim to be smart, only somewhat less deluded on this particular aspect than others.
anonymous832
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Yes, I knew someone was going to use that particular quote to either distort the purpose of my post or ignore what I actually said - or both. So bravo, you're the one. I find it interesting that nobody has yet actually taken issue with any specific point I made. Either way, what I wrote was neither self-important nor delusional - I was simply claiming that I DON'T have the answers, while a dozen or so people on this thread apparently seem to think the answers are self-evident. They don't have the answers, either - and while there's nothing wrong with criticizing or questioning a coach/team/player, the fact that people were acting like Sloan was some moron who didn't understand - as, of course, THEY did, in their infinite coaching wisdom - an apparently basic fundamental principle of coaching was laughable to say the least.
Sloan told the Trib today that he believes players watching film on their own is a better teaching method than watching film as a team. That's what he's found in his experience, at least. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe other coaches have found otherwise in their experience. I couldn't possibly say which method is more effective - nor could any of the rest of you.
That was my point.
What you probably don't realize is that if this thread was started with "Sloan and team watch film together" then there would have been an outpouring of disgust that Sloan is wasting the team's practice time going over film with the players. There is never a right answer, even when we win. This is a board of pessimistic ********, which is what makes it so much fun to read. 
InGameStrategy
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Under that same logic, it's better to graduate from college on independent study rather than interacting with a teacher.
This is why, anonymous, that some posters on this board differ with some of the tactics that Sloan uses. Even if not watching game film was adequate for when the team already knew the offense, it's probably appropriate right now with at least a couple of young players (Hayward, Evans) and a half-dozen new ones. And what is disappointing is that Sloan isn't giving any hints that he would consider possibly giving it a try. Back to the fatal flaw of lack of adjusting to the situation, both in games and out.
P.S. Experience or authority is definitely not an assurance of correctness; just ask Richard Nixon.
(He was a U.S. president, btw.)
Using surgical skill to produce a comment that is specific, clear, and creative, InGameStrategy reveals teh brilliant insight that never seeing a professor at all is the approximate equivalent of spending hours a day with a coach focused on your improvment, whcih coach prefers one technique over another. Bravo!
That's why the jazz had out game "film" after every game: so the players can watch it. The only difference is whether it is the best use of practice time.