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I don’t think Giddey is any more of a winning player than Kuminga. Great box score guy, terrible +\- guy. If Kuminga was on the Bulls, he’d also put up bonkers box score numbers.

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Why do we want a player that contributes to regular season winning and not postseason winning right now.
Well I never said he wouldnt contribute to post-season winning. That's just the only avenue someone would regret signing Giddey. I think he is undoubtedly a very good player. But yes he has some flaws/warts that may prevent him from translating his full game to the post-season, or he might not.
 
No one is going to regret signing Giddey unless they make it to the PO and he isnt that kind of player, but he will put up great numbers in the regular season and contribute to winning.
Depends on the price but he really goosed his numbers post AS break and if you are buying based on that... there could be some buyers remorse if he is closer to 12/7/6 than 21/11/9. He has been a post AS break looter. Even at 25M per year I have real reservations.
 
Depends on the price but he really goosed his numbers post AS break and if you are buying based on that... there could be some buyers remorse if he is closer to 12/7/6 than 21/11/9. He has been a post AS break looter. Even at 25M per year I have real reservations.
Definitely goosed them, but I also think he is legitimately good. Had a crazy triple double game vs the Lakers in a win during the late season, so it wasnt all empty calories vs bad /not trying teams.

I also just love the fit and I need something to kind of look at as a "what if" fun scenario for the rest of the off-season.

Also, while cap space in 2026 is alluring, a lot of teams will have cap-space and Utah is still Utah. If we can get someone with upside in, it seems kind of worth it?
 
Definitely goosed them, but I also think he is legitimately good. Had a crazy triple double game vs the Lakers in a win during the late season, so it wasnt all empty calories vs bad /not trying teams.

I also just love the fit and I need something to kind of look at as a "what if" fun scenario for the rest of the off-season.

Also, while cap space in 2026 is alluring, a lot of teams will have cap-space and Utah is still Utah. If we can get someone with upside in, it seems kind of worth it?
Yeah I $20M per year like him. I $30M per year kinda hate him. He likely gets closer to that and I could see them regretting that one if it gets there.

He has done it multiple years so I just wonder what player he is most like. Cap space may not mean much next year. We will see.
 
I also think it is helpful to wait and see what you have before getting a guy like Giddy who does kind of box you in a little. Especially for where we are.
 
Who is better long-term, Kuminga or Walker? I think it would be Kuminga
Walker, no question in my mind. He will always have value, even if he gets a bit overpaid. Teams will still have helio-centric ballhandlers that will need a lob threat, and Walker is one of the best in that regard.

And even outside of Walker being a more universal fit league wide, he just a better player flat out.
 
I'd give JK the edge over Giddey as an overall prospect....Giddey has a better chance to succeed in UTA though.
 
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