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John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

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He said, a very large amount. Like, you know, large. Of reasonable people. People that are not unreasonable. They are skeptical. It's pretty rare that a large amount of reasonable people are skeptical about anything. Pretty solid proof actually.
 
He said, a very large amount. Like, you know, large. Of reasonable people. People that are not unreasonable. They are skeptical. It's pretty rare that a large amount of reasonable people are skeptical about anything. Pretty solid proof actually.

bro didn't your folks ever teach you nobody likes a smart arse ?
 
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uhh people who aren't in your moral superiority echo chamber ?? You'd be surprised how many people don't agree with all your assessments. If you'd like me to name all the doctors and allied health professionals i know and discuss things with who have issues with the mass mandates of Covid vaccines well .. nah mate

here's a good one for you What's your opinion of this study https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(22)00822-1/fulltext
 
uhh people who aren't in your moral superiority echo chamber ?? You'd be surprised how many people don't agree with all your assessments. If you'd like me to name all the doctors and allied health professionals i know and discuss things with who have issues with the mass mandates of Covid vaccines well .. nah mate

here's a good one for you What's your opinion of this study https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(22)00822-1/fulltext
So people who don't take the vaccine appear more likely to engage in risk-taking behavior, which tends to cause more traffic accidents. And more risk-averse people are likely to take the vaccine and likely to not engage in risky behaviors so they have fewer accidents. In other news, water is found to generally be wet.
 
So people who don't take the vaccine appear more likely to engage in risk-taking behavior, which tends to cause more traffic accidents. And more risk-averse people are likely to take the vaccine and likely to not engage in risky behaviors so they have fewer accidents. In other news, water is found to generally be wet.
I haven’t been following this thread very closely but I did click on the link and read the study. When I finished it I had this reaction:


Not sure what his point was. Stupid people do stupid things? People who don’t value their lives enough to get vaccinated also don’t value their lives when driving? Risk takers do risk taking things? No clue.
 
More stupid **** from musk. What "point" is it exactly where administering a vaccine to the population is worse than the disease? Yeah I remember all those horrible polio cases that got worse once everyone had the vaccine. Yeah.
good post. I guess he was serving more stupid red meat to the stupid people who think he’s a genius, like Miles Bron.
 
More stupid **** from musk. What "point" is it exactly where administering a vaccine to the population is worse than the disease? Yeah I remember all those horrible polio cases that got worse once everyone had the vaccine. Yeah.

when the vaccine doesn't actually stop you contracting or transmitting said disease. Where said disease is incredibly mild for a large amount of the heatlhy population. Where said vaccine is dubious in it's effects for the younger healthy population. Where said vaccine has a small % of known effects that haven't been studied extensively. Where said vaccine has no long term or even medium term follow up safety data. Whether you agree or not the rationale is the weighing up of these factors for younger healthy people, it's not rocket science. Polio is such a stupid analogy. Different disease, different rates of outcome Completely different success rate of the vaccine.

You still really think the vaccine is a magic silver bullet that everyone should take it endlessly ??

"First do no harm"
 
Where said disease is incredibly mild for a large amount of the heatlhy population.
I've read that 15-20% of the people surviving covid19 get long covid (frankly, that seems high). Still, even if it's as low as 5%, that's a debilitating illness being prevented by vaccination. Measles is, to my understanding, more virulent, less deadly, and has fewer side effects.

Where said vaccine is dubious in it's effects for the younger healthy population. Where said vaccine has a small % of known effects that haven't been studied extensively. Where said vaccine has no long term or even medium term follow up safety data. Whether you agree or not the rationale is the weighing up of these factors for younger healthy people, it's not rocket science. Polio is such a stupid analogy. Different disease, different rates of outcome Completely different success rate of the vaccine.

You still really think the vaccine is a magic silver bullet that everyone should take it endlessly ??

"First do no harm"
These are all valid considerations, answerable only by data regarding outcomes, stratified across ages levels and other considerations. AFAIK, the WHO and CDC have these numbers. If you have them, I'd be very interested in reading them.
 
I've read that 15-20% of the people surviving covid19 get long covid (frankly, that seems high). Still, even if it's as low as 5%, that's a debilitating illness being prevented by vaccination. Measles is, to my understanding, more virulent, less deadly, and has fewer side effects.


These are all valid considerations, answerable only by data regarding outcomes, stratified across ages levels and other considerations. AFAIK, the WHO and CDC have these numbers. If you have them, I'd be very interested in reading them.

mostly agree. Though i've read other studies that suggest long Covid is not much different that the rate of lingering symptoms for other illnesses. There's a lot of conflicting information and about a lot of things that are very difficult to accurately quantify
 
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