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John Stockton Claims Medicine is Bad

Jaymz said:
Errrr… uhhh… ermmmm…
Here ya go.
4:05 ish

View: https://youtu.be/01LbcCDTwF4
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There were many pictures and illustrations with the host providing a narrative but very little actual substance. Very very very little actual substance. Like basically no substance.

100% not impressed with this video. 1000% not impressed that you thought this was an answer to the post you responded to.

This reminds me of "the moon landings were fake" scientific proof videos, to be honest. I'm not saying that the video is wrong necessarily, there is just no way to know either way by watching the supplied video.
 
So guys. I’m licensed and insured. I am really damn good with trigger points (80% of trigger points overlap with acupuncture points)

Let me put my thumb on you, tell me after that it’s only placebo
 
Gameface said:
There were many pictures and illustrations with the host providing a narrative but very little actual substance. Very very very little actual substance. Like basically no substance.

100% not impressed with this video. 1000% not impressed that you thought this was an answer to the post you responded to.

This reminds me of "the moon landings were fake" scientific proof videos, to be honest. I'm not saying that the video is wrong necessarily, there is just no way to know either way by watching the supplied video.
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The only part of this video that I wanted to highlight was when the needle was inserted. The reaction of the tissue.
these are real studies.

I’m not trying to impress anybody. I’m not trying to argue with you either.
I’m not a debate major.


But this was part of my training as a massage therapist.
I am passionate about holistic health
And I would not at all share my opinion of it if it wasn’t grounded in holistic health
 
NUMBERICA said:
Everyone that has ever ingested dihydrogen monoxide has died. Obviously chemicals are bad!
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On April Fool's Day in 2013, a pair of Florida disc jockeys got themselves into a bit of hot water with station management for prankishly warning their listeners that "dihydrogen monoxide" — another name for that life-giving substance we identify as H2O, or more commonly, "water" — was coming out of local residents' taps:

The radio station's joke involved that “dihydrogen monoxide” was coming out of county residents' taps.The joke immediately got the attention of Patty DiPiero from Lee County Utilities. She said Lee County residents began calling the utility saying they heard on the station that county water was unsafe and should not be used for drinking, showering or for any use.
DiPiero stressed in an email to media outlets that the utility was not having any issues with the water supply and the water is safe to use.
However, some people believed the hoax, at least for a short time.
One woman wrote in saying she worked in the food service industry and was trying to figure out how to serve customers and prepare food without requiring water.
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JazzMan4Life said:
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On April Fool's Day in 2013, a pair of Florida disc jockeys got themselves into a bit of hot water with station management for prankishly warning their listeners that "dihydrogen monoxide" — another name for that life-giving substance we identify as H2O, or more commonly, "water" — was coming out of local residents' taps:
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Well it's been proven that if you inhale very much of it at all it will kill you.
 
Jaymz said:
Errrr… uhhh… ermmmm…
Here ya go.
4:05 ish

View: https://youtu.be/01LbcCDTwF4
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that study did prove nothing - here is quote from it. "An important limitation of this study is that a cause and effect relationship between pullout force and therapeutic effect has not been established. This study for the first time demonstrates a link between acupuncture needle manipulation and biomechanical events in the tissue. These biomechanical events are potentially associated with long-lasting cellular and extracellular effects. Developing an understanding of these effects in future studies may eventually lead to insights into acupuncture's therapeutic mechanisms. In the shorter term, these same effects may also provide important biological markers that can be used in clinical trials of acupuncture. "

In short - it discovered that body reacts when needle is inserted, woohoo.!!!!
 
MVP said:
that study did prove nothing - here is quote from it. "An important limitation of this study is that a cause and effect relationship between pullout force and therapeutic effect has not been established. This study for the first time demonstrates a link between acupuncture needle manipulation and biomechanical events in the tissue. These biomechanical events are potentially associated with long-lasting cellular and extracellular effects. Developing an understanding of these effects in future studies may eventually lead to insights into acupuncture's therapeutic mechanisms. In the shorter term, these same effects may also provide important biological markers that can be used in clinical trials of acupuncture. "

In short - it discovered that body reacts when needle is inserted, woohoo.!!!!
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No no no, it's magic. Ancient Chinese magic. Get with the program!
 
I'm all for whatever works for people, even if I have little interest in it. Pain sucks! I won't tell someone their method won't work. It just might.
 
I dunno. Not my job to try to convince them. I just know every patient I’ve had and apply pressure to triggerpoints. They don’t turn around and tell me man I’m glad I’m good with my placebo.

I feel real change, right under my hands.
 
Having spent 4+ years with the Chinese Olympic teams that regularly use stretching, pressure point massages, and acupuncture for their athletes I feel pretty confident that it is ineffective for athletes and overall damaging to their athletic performance. But acupuncture itself does have some effectiveness and there is some studies pointing out its positive effects, but its debatable at best.
 
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