I have had my first shot for the virus. All I have experienced is a sore arm for a day. I get my second in about two weeks. During my childhood, The history of vaccines have certainly saved more lives then they have taken. Unfortunately the Internet has become the misinformation highway and people have the taken half truths and turned it into the anti-vaccine movement. Without science and people who make vaccines the human race would be gone. Polio, small pox, Chicken Pox, Measles etc. I refused to watch the video simply because I do not want to have my opinion of John Stockton tarnished but if he is fighting against the vaccine then shame on him.
john stockton speaks out against the covid policies
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So what harm from the lockdowns is worse than death?
Natural herd immunity is part of the evolution of every animal.
Europeans had acquired herd immunity to many diseases (smallpox, etc) that they carried to the Americas, where millions of Native Americans, who had no such immunity, were wiped out. See "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond, where it is well explained.
Here are a few others from a quick google search:
- Great Influenza (Spanish Flu)
- avian cholera in Arctic-nesting seabirds
- measles in humans in the 1930s
- Avian cholera in Arctic-nesting seabirds
- West Nile Virus across various bird species
Herd immunity would occur for COVID 19 eventually, or humanity would be wiped out, one of the two. It is a bad solution because of the hundreds of millions of deaths. It would be an ugly death match between our immune system and the mutating/ evolving virus.
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I agree, but it is not a one-sided equation. Kids are struggling with serious mental health issues and suicides are a side effect. We need to strike a balance until we have this thing whipped.
Next we'll have basketball players professing that the Earth is flat!
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You expect me to believe a Canadian Province would have such a proclamation without saying sorry at least 3 or four times in the message?
OK. Again, which diseases do you mean?
John Stockton's comment was totally OK.
On any technical issue, particularly medical technical issue, free speech will result in all kinds of remarks ranging from moronic, evil, imbecilic, fear mongering, panic-causing, deadly if believed or followed, "medical insurrectionist" or what have you.....unlimited possible negatives in type and scale, depending on the subject and whether people will listen at all.
The only thing worse, with higher risks all around, is having some damn authority who wants to shut you up, or shut anyone else up.
John Stockton is apparently fairly informed. I don't know what his interest area is specifically, but in general his comment is something everyone could benefit from. Being concerned and willing to take up the subject and get more information..... good.
Being concerned about authoritarian meansures that don't make good sense...... responsible and sensible. Everyone should be asking these questions and doing more to get information about stuff affecting their lives.
Thank you John.
There was no herd immunity to smallpox; it was a continuing threat over generations until there were inoculations.
Measles were still around when I was a kid. The great influenza is still infecting us (it seems to have mutated into various strains of the annual flus).
I found this article on West Nile virus. Page 46 talks about a reduction in activity, but doesn't mention any populations where the transmission risk was insignificant.
In this article, the reduction in avian mortality from cholera occurred with a massive mortality rate.
There was never herd immunity for measles (if anything, it was caught by pretty much everyone), and it didn't kill people off. In particular, because covid19 is more fatal to people above the age of reproduction, there is no reason to think it would ever go away.