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SoberasHotRod said:
I just did the math and if Keyonte was shooting his normal 3pt% (34%) then his TS% would be 59.7% instead of his 56.7%. 56.7% isn't horrible for his usage and puts him in the range of Giddey, Siakam, Cade, and Banchero.

If you look at guys with >25% usage and ~60%TS% you are looking at guys like Brunson, Brown, Murray, and Maxey.

Now obviously he has to increase his 3pt% to career averages while maintaining his FTr and %, but I guess my point is that he's not far off elite levels for scoring guards and still just barely 22yo.

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Keyonte hit 59%TS%.

Here is the list of guys with >25% ast% >25%usg% and TS%>57

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It's basically all all star/near all star level players. Keyonte is the youngest.
 
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SoberasHotRod said:
Keyonte hit 59%TS%.

Here is the list of guys with >25% ast% >25%usg% and TS%>57

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It's basically all all star/near all star level players. Keyonte is the youngest.
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if you move it to 30% ast% and TS% 59 there are even fewer - granted NBA.com hasn't updated since last night, so it won't show Key at 59% TS, but that's where he is.

If you move it to 33% ast (again, need NBA.com to update) with the 59% TS, it's Key and a group of MVPs - Luka, Shai, Jokic, Giannis, Harden - and Key. that's the list.
 
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str8line said:
Key's been spectacular. He's playing like a star. And we haven't seen him pout all season. He must be in the running for MIP.
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Let's pump the breaks a little bit. Keyonte probably reached the tier of Sharpe, LaVine, Powell and Ingram but there is clearly another level for him to ascend before we can start comparing him to true stars like Booker, Brown and Butler.
 
jazznik said:
Let's pump the breaks a little bit. Keyonte probably reached the tier of Sharpe, LaVine, Powell and Ingram but there is clearly another level for him to ascend before we can start comparing him to true stars like Booker, Brown and Butler.
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He's playing much better than Booker lately, it isn't even close. Similar offensive stats to Brown lately(both avg 28.4 PTS in last 5 games) but better 3PT% and more AST for Key. Butler hasn't been quite as good offensively over the last five games.
 
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seattlejazzfan said:
if you move it to 30% ast% and TS% 59 there are even fewer - granted NBA.com hasn't updated since last night, so it won't show Key at 59% TS, but that's where he is.

If you move it to 33% ast (again, need NBA.com to update) with the 59% TS, it's Key and a group of MVPs - Luka, Shai, Jokic, Giannis, Harden - and Key. that's the list.
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Yeah, that's cherry picking a little. He doesn't have nearly the TS%, counting stats, or net rating as those guys. Still good company to be in.

When a guy has >25% usg% and >25% ast% they are carrying a huge offensive load, if you are able to do that and maintain at least league average efficiency you are a very good player.

I think it's very fair to say that Keyonte is on an all star path though. He's only 22 and playing at a near all star level.
 
str8line said:
He's put up 33, 34, 20, 27, 28 in his last five games.
AST in those games 6, 8, 8, 8, 7.
STL 4, 2, 0, 1, 2.
REB 2, 4, 3, 5, 6.
3PT 17/43 40%.
FG 49/100 49%.
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Yesterday I posted that I felt like his 3 point percentage was way up in his last five games or so but I hadn't looked it up so thanks for the confirmation.
 
str8line said:
He's playing much better than Booker lately, it isn't even close. Similar offensive stats to Brown lately(both avg 28.4 PTS in last 5 games) but better 3PT% and more AST for Key. Butler hasn't been quite as good offensively over the last five games.
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Seems like key has played better against better opponents as well which is nice.
 
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str8line said:
He's playing much better than Booker lately, it isn't even close. Similar offensive stats to Brown lately(both avg 28.4 PTS in last 5 games) but better 3PT% and more AST for Key. Butler hasn't been quite as good offensively over the last five games.
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Booker, Brown and Butler were the engines of effective offenses for deep playoff runs. And Keyonte put nice stats for several games - on below-average efficiency and playing for a tanking team. And I am not even going to start talking about his defense.

He still has much work ahead of him to be referred as a star. Unless we are talking about the stardom of Cam Thomas.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Yeah, that's cherry picking a little. He doesn't have nearly the TS%, counting stats, or net rating as those guys. Still good company to be in.

When a guy has >25% usg% and >25% ast% they are carrying a huge offensive load, if you are able to do that and maintain at least league average efficiency you are a very good player.

I think it's very fair to say that Keyonte is on an all star path though. He's only 22 and playing at a near all star level.
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you call it cherry picking, i call it raising the bar*. you came up with the stats, i just increased them to the level he's at. all that remained were league MVPs.










*sure, yeah, it's cherry picking.
 
jazznik said:
Booker, Brown and Butler were the engines of effective offenses for deep playoff runs. And Keyonte put nice stats for several games - on below-average efficiency and playing for a tanking team. And I am not even going to start talking about his defense.

He still has much work ahead of him to be referred as a star. Unless we are talking about the stardom of Cam Thomas.
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Below-average efficiency?
 
Taking into account his age and experience and consistent improvement I'd say his overall numbers this year are probably more of the floor, not the ceiling.

28.4 PTS/ 7.4 AST/ 5 REB/ 1.8 STL on 49%FG and 40% 3PT over the last five are all-star numbers, right? I looked, yes they are. Naysayers will say, "but he's on a tanking team." So yeah it might be premature but at least he can put those numbers up for five straight games. He also has elite athleticism and draws fouls so he's going to get his even when his outside shot is not falling.



2025-26 Regular Season
  • Points: 23.4
  • Rebounds: 4.1
  • Assists: 7.2
  • PER: Approximately 21.3 (based on P/40 stats)

2024-25 Regular Season
  • Points: 16.8
  • Rebounds: 3.8
  • Assists: 5.6

2023-24 Regular Season
  • Points: 14.8
  • Rebounds:2.8
    • Assists: 4.4
 
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