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Keyonte George’s Star Ascension

rippimpc said:
Not trying to tear him down but there was a dj & pk after Hayward had left that Locke basically admits it was a jazz pr thing and that his numbers were strongly influenced by having Gobert behind him. My source is “trust me bro” as I can’t find the audio now. But I think it’s easier to admit those things after your guy leaves and there was some selfish motivation in that Locke was gassing Gobert.
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I trust you, bro
 
I don’t think it’s an accident that Key is shoots so much better when playing alongside Clayton or Collier. He was doing just fine as the heliocentric ball handler, but I think he’s really at his best when he can share the on ball load and use his off ball ability as well. I think that’s great for scaling up once we try to win. We won’t have problems if/when we are able to add another on ball star player.
 
Key leads the NBA (tied with Sengun) for 5 buckets to tie/win a game at the end of regulation or OT. However Key is 5/9 on such attempts, while Sengun is only 5/13.

He is also 9th in clutch scoring. and 29/32 (90.6%) on clutch free throws (clutch = last 5 minutes of close games). Combine that with Lauri (who has 50/40/92 clutch splits with pretty high volumes) and you got two guys who can win you games and who show up in those moments.

Jazz FO gotta start investing in building around them sooner rather than later.
 
KqWIN said:
Kudos for brining up the fact that TS% has increased since then. Numbers have gone up quite a bit in just a few years. I see so many people comparing today’s efficiency to a previous time and that’s just not right. Key is still more efficient in a relative sense, but it’s not as much as it appears on the surface.

But the elephant in the room with all of this is the other side of the ball. I think Key is comparable or maybe even better than Don offensively, but if we’re going to call one player overrated it’s only fair to consider both sides of the ball.
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Donovan was **** defensively for most of his Jazz career
 
jazznik said:
Updated:

Donovan Mitchell: 24.0 PPG, 4.3 APG, 4.4 RPG, 1.0 SPG, on the 45% - 37% - 86% shooting.
Keyonte (so far): 24.2 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.2 RPG, 0.9 SPG, on the 45% - 37% - 90% shooting.

Their stats are absolutely identical with one exception: Keyonte has way more assists.
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Pretty shocking to be honest, considering his first two years were not close to DMs. I didn't have much hope for him after year 2. He was given the keys for 2 straight years and didn't show enough for me.
 
This year for Keyonte kind of reminds me of Lauri's first season here. Through the 10 or so games I remember he was averaging like 20 PPG on good efficiency and I was super excited, but kept waiting for the reversion which never came that season. And instead he just kept getting better.

Same situation with Keyonte so far this season.
 
Listening to Hoop Collective and the Zach Lowe podcast and their talk about the weak trade market for Trae Young, and the really low likelihood of Trae being able to get anything like max money on his next contract, I think there are implications for Keyonte’s extension with the Jazz. There’s just a limit to how much you invest in an offensive engine that plays zero defense. Maybe Key sees that and commits to work harder in defense in the future. Otherwise it seems like the Jazz will have a good argument that one way player key is maybe $30 mil type money but nothing close to a max player. Trae Young ends up being a pretty powerful cautionary tale.
 
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