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Looking for genuine discourse re: Donald Sterling/NBA

VINYLONE said:
You and the people of your ilk are getting more and more marginalized. I know you feel it and I know what you see going on around you. I feel how scared you are of the impending change in the populace and how uncomfortable you feel when people of color are in positions of power. Positions that will allow them to change social policy. It's a blind hate that encompasses you and mandates you to give support and rationale to the worst our society has to offer.

Don't worry though, we don't live forever. I guess that's some solace. Or, you can always say that "oath" to yourself as you fall asleep...you know which one.
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Awefully presumptuous of you.
 
VINYLONE said:
You and the people of your ilk are getting more and more marginalized. I know you feel it and I know what you see going on around you. I feel how scared you are of the impending change in the populace and how uncomfortable you feel when people of color are in positions of power. Positions that will allow them to change social policy. It's a blind hate that encompasses you and mandates you to give support and rationale to the worst our society has to offer.

Don't worry though, we don't live forever. I guess that's some solace. Or, you can always say that "oath" to yourself as you fall asleep...you know which one.
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WTH? My ILK? Dude, the death of the family is a huge problem with society. I know its fashionable to say any arrangement is good, but it isn't. I came from a single parent household, and there are definitely disadvantages to it. It is more pronounced in the black community right now based on culture, but that doesn't mean that everyone else isn't hell bent on getting there too.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that there are no lasting consequences from a 72 or 68 or hell even a 50 percent out of wedlock rate? Is Bill Cosby one of my "ilk," because he is right there with me. . .

Also, this borders on a personal attack, no? This is why you can't have discussions with liberal ideologues. . .
 
One Brow said:
That's some truly cogent social analysis. Thanks.
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It was flippant, yes. But the message is: if you want to decrease pregnancies among the unwed, you teach abstinence and responsibility. If the man doesn't want to put a raincoat on junior, the woman needs to either refuse or use birth control herself. And don't glorify being a single mom. I know several. And it's hell for them. Don't sugarcoat it in the media.
 
Just read that UCLA rejected a 3 million gift from Sterling for kidney research.

That seems foolish to me. Sterling is who he is and that has been made clear thru all of this. But why not use his money to help medical research or other worthy causes? I get the whole core valuues argument and I am glad UCLA does not share them. But this does not help their cause. Is shunning him really worth the losses and delays in research and charities that denying his money will bring?
 
b_line said:
Cyrone Torbin said:
Will a battle really effect the value of his franchise that much?

His team has two superstars and is based in Los Angeles. Don't think there is much he can do to hurt the name that much. Besides, a new owner could always just rename the team.
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If those superstars decide to pursue having their contracts voided rather than play for the racist owner, then the franchise will certainly start to lose some value. If Sterling remains the owner, Chris Paul and Doc Rivers have already voiced that they would at least have to reconsider their involvement with the team. I would bet that most of the players would probably find their way to another team.
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Yep. And if this becomes a multi-year thing as is very possible, not only will players & coaches leave/not go there, but fan attendance will drop. And other penalties could be brought to bear, such as loss of draft picks, etc. Absolutely the value of the franchise will be affected.
 
framer said:
WTH? My ILK? Dude, the death of the family is a huge problem with society.
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Meh. Religious fear mongering tbh. Family structure shrinks and grows and shrinks again based largely on economic opportunity.

framer said:
It is more pronounced in the black community right now based on culture, but that doesn't mean that everyone else isn't hell bent on getting there too.
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Do you realize that's about as racist a statement as you could make? Culture has little to do with it, and it's either ignorance or racism to assume it does.
 
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