Gyp Rosetti
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but would you do Hamilton and #8 for Okur, Bell and #12???
Mehmet Okur to the Pistons?
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If it were the Jazz i'd try Bell, Okur, either or both (rights to Tomic, or Evans) for Rip, Daye & 8th pick and I'd pick Valanciunas and let him develope for the next 2 years in Europe
utahjazz107
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I agree while Rip is old, he is still only 33. He easily has two more years left that he can contribute on the floor. Until Bell, Rip was a two-time allstar and lead his team to the ECF 7 straight years. We could always use an upgrade at shooting guard and he's one of the best mid range shooters in the history of the NBA.
Darkwing Duck
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He makes 24.5 million over the next two years. Is he worth ruining any cap space the Jazz would likely have in 2013 for Richard Hamilton at 34? I think not.
Favors Flave
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Yeah, Rip has 2 years left but at a steep price. However, you get out of Bell and Okur's deal and get the number 8 in which you could probably take a Biyombo or maybe get lucky and have Kemba/Jonas/Leonard fall and grab one of them.
Rip may not be what he once was but he would be perfect in the Jazz offense
utahjazz107
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Cap space to attract who? CP3? Dwight Howard? Realistically the only way we would land a superstar is having a good championship caliber team. The addition of Hamilton, 8th pick and someone else could help us rebuild our franchise and develop Favors, our draft picks and Hayward. Then come 2013 have Hamilton's 13 million dollar contact be used towards a much younger and raising superstar
The only realistic chance of us getting a super star is if one of them converts to Mormonism.
Darkwing Duck
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Trading for a player to trade him later on is a recipe for disaster.
Cap space is for financial flexibility. Jazz would need it to fill depth if Hayward/Favors turn into stars, and to make a run at free agents down the line, or to take on a bigger contract with the salary space in a trade. Hamstringing yourself financially for Richard freakin' Hamilton just doesn't do it for me.
I agree with this. But Hayward and Favors are both still on there Rookie contracts until after Rips contract is up. Having him for 2 years really doesn't hurt us IMO because I don't see us being a contender for the next 2-3 years.
I have the general belief that if Utah was the only team that could've signed all three of Bosh, Wade, and Lebron, they would've signed here. You can speculate all you want about the peripheral reasons, but at the end of the day, they did what they did to win. Right now, the Jazz are in a situation where they can get an extremely young, talented, and cheap roster and have a ton of cap space in an offseason of their choosing where the worst-case is they continue on the rebuild.
Taking on salary to acquire more high picks is another advantage of having space to blow.
Cap space is good.
The end.
Taking on salary to acquire more high picks is another advantage of having space to blow.
Cap space is good.
The end.
utahjazz107
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Except not at all. Superstars go to big markets not because they make a lot of money through their NBA contracts but because they get sponsorships and advertisements. D-Will in a Nets uniform already has more sponsorships and advertisements than the D-Will that was in a Jazz uniform.
The only way we get a superstar is if we draft a Kevin Durant.
Stifle Tower
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We could get Gladys Knight sans "The Pips" to sing the national anthem. Would that help?
gregbroncs
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I wouldn't. We take the worst contract and only move up 4 spots. Okur and Bell for Hamilton and #8 I would probably do. I would rather Hamilton and next years top 3 protected pick for Memo and Bell though.
Lakers_Slapper
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If we traded for stucky it would make more sense, I was meaning trading up Okur for Hamilton, I think it would be a wash talent-wise, but there really isnt anything that would keep me from pulling the trigger. If they offered one of their most overpaid dancers for okur I would pull the trigger........ Ya know,,,,,,, thinking about it........... if they traded their wilted, old, retired, fat Joe Dumars I would pull the trigger. Damn...... this trade possibility is sounding better all the time.