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Gameface said:
I'm kind of hoping we luck out and she's actually a liar and thus proves that she's one of the greatest political minds in the history of mankind.
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I'm astonished how Hillary Clinton has managed to become hated as a public figure for completely opposite reasons. In the early 90's she was the ultimate misfit OUTSIDER - she was the first FLOTUS (with the exception of maybe Eleanor Roosevelt) who wasn't a glorified White House ornament. She was her own woman with her own name, her own career who didn't give a **** about the color of the drapes in the Oval Office. She managed to become a whipping boy for both the the women's libbers from 70's who didn't know their place and the counter culture trouble makers from the 60's

Today she's hated for being the ultimate INSIDER. To the far right she a shady opportunist stuck in a bubble of liberal talking points. To the far left she's at best a centrist in pants suits and at worst another corporate shill democrat who sold her ideals years ago for votes and donations.

LOL - if someone created a fictional character mirroring her arc as a public figure, no one would find it believable.
 
Listening to people try and convince others they actually like Hillary is hilarious and incredibly transparent.

It's ok just to just hate Trump, bros. No reason to lose all credibility with the mental gymnastics it takes to support Hillary.
 
UGLI baby said:
Listening to people try and convince others they actually like Hillary is hilarious and incredibly transparent.

It's ok just to just hate Trump, bros. No reason to lose all credibility with the mental gymnastics it takes to support Hillary.
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**** you
 
"Like" Hillary Clinton? Has nothing to do with anything

I have respect her for the service Hillary Clinton has given this country. I respect her abilities as a political leader.

I believe she will be an effective President and Commander-in-Chief

I really like the fact that she's not appealing to white nationalists.

I think the smear campaign that the Republican party has been working since Hillary Clinton first testified before congress when Bill was president is what is transperant. But it has worked. Even people voting for Clinton have accepted that she's some kind of monster regardless of the fact that none of the common themes have ever been proven.

It's not okay to say that Hillary Clinton is a decent respectable person? Yeah, **** that hollow group-think horse ****. **** you UGLI for being a smug jackass
 
We're talking about a candidate that has emboldened white nationalism in the U.S.. Without the racist vote Trump has no base.

You don't have to be a racist to support Trump, but it sure does help.

And if you are a racist he is your one and only choice.

Will racism win? No. But UGLI finds the idea that it might pretty entertaining.
 
Stoked said:
You one of those people that will stop talking to people over disagreements in political leanings? Gonna unfriend him on FB?

Get a grip, damn
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No, he is basically calling me a phoney.

That what I say I think is not what I think. And he's acting like a smug little prick about it.

I can be friends with people who have different political opinions than I have.
 
People spouting that Trump is racist, or the next Hitler look just as silly as people saying Hillary for prison, or Hillary created ISIS.

You've bought the hype and someone else's agenda. The truth is more in the middle for each candidate. Both candidates are flawed, but neither one is evil incarnate like some from each side want you to believe.

Also Gameface, being really angry and hostile about your opinions doesn't make them stronger, it makes you more blind to seeing truth and nuance when presented with facts. I'm sorry to have gotten you worked up, I like you and have tried to stay away from making posts directed at you. You seem to have become very militant about anyone with an opinion that contradicts yours. I think you have great thoughts and a good heart, but should worry less about people that think differently than you.
 
In regards to Hillary and her supposed unproved accusations I will just leave this here...





Benghazi
 
UGLI baby said:
People spouting that Trump is racist, or the next Hitler look just as silly as people saying Hillary for prison, or Hillary created ISIS.

You've bought the hype and someone else's agenda. The truth is more in the middle for each candidate. Both candidates are flawed, but neither one is evil incarnate like some from each side want you to believe.

Also Gameface, being really angry and hostile about your opinions doesn't make them stronger, it makes you more blind to seeing truth and nuance when presented with facts. I'm sorry to have gotten you worked up, I like you and have tried to stay away from making posts directed at you. You seem to have become very militant about anyone with an opinion that contradicts yours. I think you have great thoughts and a good heart, but should worry less about people that think differently than you.
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This is fitting here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FnrhNx9z0
 
UGLI baby said:
People spouting that Trump is racist, or the next Hitler look just as silly as people saying Hillary for prison, or Hillary created ISIS.

You've bought the hype and someone else's agenda. The truth is more in the middle for each candidate. Both candidates are flawed, but neither one is evil incarnate like some from each side want you to believe.

Also Gameface, being really angry and hostile about your opinions doesn't make them stronger, it makes you more blind to seeing truth and nuance when presented with facts. I'm sorry to have gotten you worked up, I like you and have tried to stay away from making posts directed at you. You seem to have become very militant about anyone with an opinion that contradicts yours. I think you have great thoughts and a good heart, but should worry less about people that think differently than you.
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LOL. Yeah, saying Trump is a racist is exactly as ridiculous as saying Hillary is the creator of ISIS. Cool story.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This is fitting here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FnrhNx9z0
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For right or wrong, I think a lot of people are gonna vote for Trump to kind of throw a grenade into this type of politics. Or at least just give a big screw you to that type of thinking.

Trump is the WTF candidate, Hillary is the candidate for more of the same from that video, at least in the minds of a lot of people if not in reality.
 
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