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[NAOS]

I agree, but it is a possibility.

Who does paul ryan pick for president out of bernie, hillary or trump? They just have to win one state. Hell, utah might even write in mitt Romney to win if the scenario is trump or hillary.

This is a crazy enough year where the winner could be a total shocker. It's totally possible.

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I know we're all televisually trained to think we're seeing off-script/unprecedented stuff, but there really isn't much to see here. Hillary has a clear road to the White House -- after the masses are entertained by more of the best televisual electoral stunts evar. And, from many different perspectives, a Hillary presidency won't be very different from Bill, W, or Obama's.

 

[colton]

I agree, but it is a possibility.

Who does paul ryan pick for president out of bernie, hillary or trump? They just have to win one state. Hell, utah might even write in mitt Romney to win if the scenario is trump or hillary.

This is a crazy enough year where the winner could be a total shocker. It's totally possible.

That's a good point... but this ".gov" website says that the House would have to choose between the top three candidates, https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html. The third option would just have to win a single state in order to be considered... the third place finisher would likely be Bernie, though, in that scenario. But I could totally see someone like Romney or Gary Johnson winning one or two states and thus coming in fourth.

Do we have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find an election where the third place candidate even won a single state? I checked, and neither Ross Perot in the '90s or Anderson in the '70s won any states. That's as many third party/independent candidates as I can think of that got substantial votes, since the days of the Bull Moose party. And here we're considering a scenario where not only the third place but also the fourth place finisher would get some electoral votes.

Probably won't happen, but like you said this is a crazy year.

 

[colton]

I know we're all televisually trained to think we're seeing off-script/unprecedented stuff, but there really isn't much to see here. Hillary has a clear road to the White House -- after the masses are entertained by more of the best televisual electoral stunts evar. And, from many different perspectives, a Hillary presidency won't be very different from Bill, W, or Obama's.

I agree, it's Hillary's to lose. If I were a betting man I'd give her about an 85% chance. The 15% chance she loses includes crazy scenarios like Bernie winning the Democratic nomination, someone (Bernie, Mitt, Bloomberg, other?) running a substantial 3rd party campaign, her getting indicted for the ongoing FBI probe, or Trump actually managing to pull a "fair win" against her out of his hat.

 

[b_line]

That's a good point... but this ".gov" website says that the House would have to choose between the top three candidates, https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html. So the third option would just have to win a single state in order to be considered. The third place finisher would likely be Bernie, though, in that scenario. But I could totally see someone like Romney or Gary Johnson winning one or two states.

Do we have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find an election where the third place candidate even won a single state? I checked, and neither Ross Perot in the '90s or Anderson in the '70s won any states. That's as many third party/independent candidates as I can think of that got substantial votes, since the days of the Bull Moose party. And here we're considering a scenario where not only the third place but also the fourth place finisher would get some electoral votes.

Probably won't happen, but like you said this is a crazy year.

Ross perot could have won in the general had he not waffled. He also had the whole threat on his daughters wife thing going on, so that made a huge difference.

It probably won't happen, but a romney/kasich ticket could win utah and Ohio at the very least. And bernie would win Vermont and maybe new Hampshire.

Romney/kasich might even win idaho, Wyoming and Arizona.

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[colton]

Ross perot could have won in the general had he not waffled. He also had the whole threat on his daughters wife thing going on, so that made a huge difference.

It probably won't happen, but a romney/kasich ticket could win utah and Ohio at the very least. And bernie would win Vermont and maybe new Hampshire.

Romney/kasich might even win idaho, Wyoming and Arizona.

And either Romney/Kasich or Bernie could very well take Wisconsin as well. (Trump lost massively there, and Bernie beat Hillary 57% to 43%.)

 

[b_line]

And either Romney/Kasich or Bernie could very well take Wisconsin as well. (Trump lost massively there, and Bernie beat Hillary 57% to 43%.)

And Michigan.

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[♪alt13]

As a life-long moderate Republican who will never vote for Donald Trump, nor Clinton/Sanders, I'm now considering my options. Barring a third party run by someone like Romney or Bloomberg, I'm thinking maybe Gary Johnson. Does anyone know much about him? Anyone else I should consider?

Here is an interview that is an introduction to who he is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCS6PbtbGmA

 

[Deleted member 848]

And either Romney/Kasich or Bernie could very well take Wisconsin as well. (Trump lost massively there, and Bernie beat Hillary 57% to 43%.)

And Michigan.

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aint multiple parties dope? I'm telling y'all. The best thing that could come out of this election is y'all moving away from the oligarchic 2-party gridlock. It hurts to think that I have to mention the benefits of having more than two parties competing.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I think Jill Stein has said she'd join forces with Bernie on a ticket. Can you imagine?

 

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I think Jill Stein has said she'd join forces with Bernie on a ticket. Can you imagine?

I think Bernie is more likely to be Clinton's VP than Stein's.

 

[colton]

Here is an interview that is an introduction to who he is

video

Thanks, that was informative. I agreed with many things, but disagreed with many things.

Interesting that he brought up isidewith.com... I went back and looked at my numbers and he was a worse match for me than everyone except for Sanders.

 

[Bronco70]

I'm telling y'all. The best thing that could come out of this election is y'all moving away from the oligarchic 2-party gridlock.

Thisness.




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