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As a life-long moderate Republican who will never vote for Donald Trump, nor Clinton/Sanders, I'm now considering my options. Barring a third party run by someone like Romney or Bloomberg, I'm thinking maybe Gary Johnson. Does anyone know much about him? Anyone else I should consider?
 
colton said:
As a life-long moderate Republican who will never vote for Donald Trump, nor Clinton/Sanders, I'm now considering my options.
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I don't understand this logic. On one hand, you describe yourself as a moderate, on the other hand, you won't vote for Hilary who on the political spectrum is right of centre. I love the parallel universe in which the USA apparently seems to exist where Hilary is considered liberal or progressive.
 
JimLes said:
I don't understand this logic. On one hand, you describe yourself as a moderate, on the other hand, you won't vote for Hilary who on the political spectrum is right of centre. I love the parallel universe in which the USA apparently seems to exist where Hilary is considered liberal or progressive.
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Hillary is very much centre-right, with exception to 1) abortion laws; 2) same-sex marriage laws (which I know colton was against just 1-2 years ago); and 3) gun-control. People can cry nepotism, but I'm sure people here would choose Jeb Bush over Hillary.

The rest of her policies are extremely moderate (at best). Her militarism is very much conservative. Hillary is NOT a progressive. Colton is socially conservative from what I can gather, which is why Hillary seems too liberal for him (along with a likely character assessment). I'll let him speak for himself though.


edit: also, colton, I can't really see you voting for Gary Johnson after looking at his policies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Johnson
 
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I like gary johnson alright. He just has zero chance if winning. He's pretty crazy.

Bloomberg would be my dream scenario followed by Romney.

If bernie runs third party, the house is likely to decide the president. Who does paul ryan pick for president? It has to be someone who won at least one state in the electoral college, I think.
 
JimLes said:
I don't understand this logic. On one hand, you describe yourself as a moderate, on the other hand, you won't vote for Hilary who on the political spectrum is right of centre. I love the parallel universe in which the USA apparently seems to exist where Hilary is considered liberal or progressive.
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Honestly I think it's more about the person than the policy.

And a lifelong republican in today's political climate may switch party, but will not think about switching to support a Democrat.

That's why bloomberg was so attractive, he is a Democrat sans the label. Smart guy.
 
colton said:
As a life-long moderate Republican who will never vote for Donald Trump, nor Clinton/Sanders, I'm now considering my options. Barring a third party run by someone like Romney or Bloomberg, I'm thinking maybe Gary Johnson. Does anyone know much about him? Anyone else I should consider?
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I'm starting to Feel the Bern. I hate a lot of things he says but a love a lot of other things. I'm fine with him as president, especially with republicans holding the legislature.

I can see with this election how "the establishment" republicans are trying hard to moderate the party. As easy as it is to get annoyed I can put that all aside and be pleased with the direction.
 
I haven't decided who to vote for but Gary Johnson is in my top 3 right now. I don't agree with everything if his but I agree with more of his stuff than anyone else. He is socially liberal as much as Hillary (who I am okay with) but more because of a hands off approach. He believes government shouldn't mess with people's personal lives and people should be able to live as they want if it isn't hurting others. He is more traditionally fiscal conservative.

I also think people would be less opposed to Clinton if she was a man. A lot of negatives towards her personality would be positives. She is socially liberal and the rest of her policy is very moderate which outside of the young Bernie fans and the religious extreme is what most of America seems to be/want as president.

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Broncster said:
I haven't decided who to vote for but Gary Johnson is in my top 3 right now. I don't agree with everything if his but I agree with more of his stuff than anyone else. He is socially liberal as much as Hillary (who I am okay with) but more because of a hands off approach. He believes government shouldn't mess with people's personal lives and people should be able to live as they want if it isn't hurting others. He is more traditionally fiscal conservative.

I also think people would be less opposed to Clinton if she was a man. A lot of negatives towards her personality would be positives. She is socially liberal and the rest of her policy is very moderate which outside of the young Bernie fans and the religious extreme is what most of America seems to be/want as president.

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Unless he's changed his platform, he's pretty much another "constitutionalist" which is code word for near-anarchist. I have no interest in even reading their platform.


I want the republican party of the '80's. Take care of those in need but don't enable people. We'll get that back eventually.
 
So the GOP is going to nominate someone with the full support of the white supremacist wing of the party. No problem! Iceland put an act together for Eurovision in 2014 to teach our children a better way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ZG378DH1c
 
franklin said:
Unless he's changed his platform, he's pretty much another "constitutionalist" which is code word for near-anarchist. I have no interest in even reading their platform.


I want the republican party of the '80's. Take care of those in need but don't enable people. We'll get that back eventually.
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I would be okay with that party fiscally but it would need to be extremely more socially liberal since they were quite the bigots/racist/sexist.

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I agree.
Never trump

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