What's new
By:

Never Trump

Broncster said:
The bigger problem than the media is the lack of critical thinking in this country. People take news or articles and beleive them. They dont see or care about the biases in them or the source. They dont understand the difference between a click bait article, an opinion piece, reporting on news information or a study and who funded that study and why.

One of the most important things college can teach kids is how to look at sources, critically think and research topics. Basically how to learn. I understand that many people go through college and never learn these things and many people dont go to college and learn these things on their own. However the majority of college graduates are better at critical thinking skills and research/learning than non college graduates.
Click to expand...

Dunno man. Many college kids are trained "think critically" but do they actually think critically? College has a nice way of pounding causes in to young, impressionable minds. They get told how to think an exit with an agenda. College does not teach people to think for thereselves. That is not the point of college at all. It is to instill morals and values, basic principles of advanced jobs, an prove you have what it takes to succeed on your own. College is not mandatory an going voluntarily says something about your character.

I hate when the left tells us only dumb uneducated rednecks vote republican. Most college degrees are half educated dimwits that think they know stuff which is more dangerous than being dumb. "Information in the wrong hands"...
 
Boris said:
Dunno man. Many college kids are trained "think critically" but do they actually think critically? College has a nice way of pounding causes in to young, impressionable minds. They get told how to think an exit with an agenda. College does not teach people to think for thereselves. That is not the point of college at all. It is to instill morals and values, basic principles of advanced jobs, an prove you have what it takes to succeed on your own. College is not mandatory an going voluntarily says something about your character.

I hate when the left tells us only dumb uneducated rednecks vote republican. Most college degrees are half educated dimwits that think they know stuff which is more dangerous than being dumb. "Information in the wrong hands"...
Click to expand...

I dont think college should be mandatory. I disagree with the rest of your assessment. Although I am guessing your made up character Boris didnt go to college but I am guessing you did. Maybe you should have focused on more of your Boris character when you ran for a political office, he would have done well here.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Do you have any links to these studies showing that the media skews right? I'd love to read them.
Click to expand...

Here is the one I mentioned during the Gore Bush election cycle. There are a few of these studies from this election cycle. Like I said it seems the "media" is bias towards whoever wins the election. So like the other study shows Trump got the better end of this election, Obama got treated better by the media, Bush got treated better and so on. There is a bias towards who people like more. The media does like to show what people want to see and pay more attention to. Unless its a really bias group like Fox news (news being a very loose term here) is.

https://www.journalism.org/2000/10/31/bush-v-gore/

Here is the summary if you dont want to go to the site.
Bush and Gore received roughly the same amount of coverage, with Bush dominating 24% of the stories and Gore 29%. Another 47% were equally about both candidates. This was true across print, television and the Internet.

But the parity ends quickly. As we found in two of the earlier studies, Bush continues to benefit more than Gore from press coverage. As outlined above, 24% of Bush stories were positive, nearly double the 13% for Gore.

In contrast, the coverage of Gore was more negative. A full 56% of the Gore stories had a negative tone, compared to 49% for Bush. The remaining stories were neutral.

Stories that focused equally on both candidates were more neutral in tone, but the critical treatment of Gore still emerged. Twelve percent were negative toward Gore, while only 8% more were negative toward Bush.
Click to expand...
 
Broncster said:
I dont think college should be mandatory. I disagree with the rest of your assessment. Although I am guessing your made up character Boris didnt go to college but I am guessing you did. Maybe you should have focused on more of your Boris character when you ran for a political office, he would have done well here.
Click to expand...

You can disagree that is fine but you should talk to recruiters an intelligentsia. You get basics only in 4 year degree an do not learn enough for most part to understand finer points. Name me one 4 year degree that do other then nursing.
 
Boris said:
You can disagree that is fine but you should talk to recruiters an intelligentsia. You get basics only in 4 year degree an do not learn enough for most part to understand finer points. Name me one 4 year degree that do other then nursing.
Click to expand...

I dont think College prepares you to do a specific job for the most part. It gives the tools to be able to learn, research, critically think and a base understanding and background for many issues. I got my first bachelors degree in Poli Sci from a very conservative school and greatly appreciate it. There are degrees and schools that are more hands on that prepare you to do a specific job but I think school at bachelor level should be more broad.
 
Broncster said:
I dont think College prepares you to do a specific job for the most part. It gives the tools to be able to learn, research, critically think and a base understanding and background for many issues. I got my first bachelors degree in Poli Sci from a very conservative school and greatly appreciate it. There are degrees and schools that are more hands on that prepare you to do a specific job but I think school at bachelor level should be more broad.
Click to expand...

That is the goal. What I am saying is unlocking a trapped adolescent mind at 18, one that has been told what to do an how to act for its entire life is not going to magically happen in college. This is a fragile an impressionable state. Teach that person a new way of thinking an you are likely giving good information into the wrong hands.

They tell me educated vote democrat an republicans are stooped. Wrong. Large urban areas vote democrat an the rest of the country votes republicans.
 
Revolution 9 said:
President Obama noticed Trump “seemed surprised” as he explained to Trump about his daily duties.
Click to expand...

Not surprising in the least. He has never been president and has never had that "inside look" that a career politician would have already had. Surprised is better than dismissive.
 
Ron Mexico said:
The bigger problem than the media is the lack of critical thinking in this country. People take news or articles and beleive them. They dont see or care about the biases in them or the source. They dont understand the difference between a click bait article, an opinion piece, reporting on news information or a study and who funded that study and why.

One of the most important things college can teach kids is how to look at sources, critically think and research topics. Basically how to learn. I understand that many people go through college and never learn these things and many people dont go to college and learn these things on their own. However the majority of college graduates are better at critical thinking skills and research/learning than non college graduates.
Click to expand...

Schools today promote a set of "communitarian" values. Churches affiliated with the World Council of Churches agree not to claim exclusive validity but to show respect for other (associated with WCC) churches. The LDS Church today does not teach the "Restoration of the Gospel" per se, because it is a WCC member. Science does not embrace critical thinking anymore, either, but instead promotes "consensus" views as valid regardless of reason. . . .

psychological conditioning has become a management art form. . . .
 
Ron Mexico said:
I dont think College prepares you to do a specific job for the most part. It gives the tools to be able to learn, research, critically think and a base understanding and background for many issues. I got my first bachelors degree in Poli Sci from a very conservative school and greatly appreciate it. There are degrees and schools that are more hands on that prepare you to do a specific job but I think school at bachelor level should be more broad.
Click to expand...

I disagree on this point. College curriculii development is mostly linked to career objectives. "Trained to the Task" to serve industrial or professional needs/services. You need to be an unhinged professional student to get that critical thinking going......
 
I was kinda in the nevertrump camp. because i believed he was a liberal in conservative clothing.
dont think he is a conservative. but he promised to build a good conservative government so fa rhe did.

so far looks like he is he pretty good president.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top