Nikola Mirotic

[infection]

The way I see it, our options for a floor spacer are:

Kevin Love: would be a dream. Wouldn’t be dealt until this summer and by that point we wouldn’t even have the contracts to send back to make it work.

Ryan Anderson: was on market last year. Houston probably leaves as-is. His contract is killer so this is a non-starter.

Aaron Gordon: going to be matched.

Jabari: not even really a 4 except being a bit slower. Will likely be matched.

Saric: not sure why Philly would move.

Kuzma: not being dealt to clear Deng’s salary.

Trey Lyles: lolz

Trevor Booker: not really a stretch guy but can rebound the ball.

Jerebko: not bad as a fill in guy. Not bad if you have to combine him and Booker.

So unless we draft a guy next year ready to contribute, then I think you’ve gotta take Mirotic if you can get him, considering how hard it’d be to land someone else.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't see any reason why we would trade Exum right now. His value is at an all time low due to his 2nd long injury. He has shown flashes of potential and he seems happy enough in Utah. I would hate to have invested the time and patience just to lose him for a borderline lottery pick.

His value to other teams is less than his value to us imo. I still believe... at the same time I'd rate our pick this year as much more valuable.

Exum's contract is going to be so much less than Rodneys that I think it will have a much bigger chance to exceed it's overall value. I think best case on Rodney is that he lives up to his contract... worst case is that it really hurts us long term.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The way I see it, our options for a floor spacer are:

Kevin Love: would be a dream. Wouldn’t be dealt until this summer and by that point we wouldn’t even have the contracts to send back to make it work.

Ryan Anderson: was on market last year. Houston probably leaves as-is. His contract is killer so this is a non-starter.

Aaron Gordon: going to be matched.

Jabari: not even really a 4 except being a bit slower. Will likely be matched.

Saric: not sure why Philly would move.

Kuzma: not being dealt to clear Deng’s salary.

Trey Lyles: lolz

Trevor Booker: not really a stretch guy but can rebound the ball.

Jerebko: not bad as a fill in guy. Not bad if you have to combine him and Booker.

So unless we draft a guy next year ready to contribute, then I think you’ve gotta take Mirotic if you can get him, considering how hard it’d be to land someone else.

Here's another plan:

Punt on the idea that there's a guy that ticks all the boxes and just fill the position by committee. Stock the team with large wings, and they can take turns on defensive assignments. Ingles is sometimes a "4" in such a system. Jae Crowder could be very useful in this pursuit as well.

 

[NUMBERICA]

And I don't trade a Utah 1st for anything less than a higher 1st or star to build around. I do trade Exum for something less, because I have no idea what is going on with him and his career.

The idea that we need to stick by Exum because he hasn't shown us anything yet is a reason to walk away, not a reason to double-down.

 

[infection]

Here's another plan:

Punt on the idea that there's a guy that ticks all the boxes and just fill the position by committee. Stock the team with large wings, and they can take turns on defensive assignments. Ingles is sometimes a "4" in such a system. Jae Crowder could be very useful in this pursuit as well.

If we landed Mirotic without Favors then I’d be pursuing Crowder with Favors.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Here's another plan:

Punt on the idea that there's a guy that ticks all the boxes and just fill the position by committee. Stock the team with large wings, and they can take turns on defensive assignments. Ingles is sometimes a "4" in such a system. Jae Crowder could be very useful in this pursuit as well.

We basically have that if we let Favs go or trade him. Thabo/Jonas/Joe Jesus at the 4.

I think Niko gets moved for something less than a 1st unless they are taking bad money back... I think there is value there and fit. We should be in on these conversations.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I don't see why people think that the Bulls wouldn't do Favors and a second rounder for Mirotic. I mean... the guy is playing the lights out and all. But that's been what... 3 weeks? Before that he spent 3 years playing par for them. The guy doesn't mesh with their team. The Portis/Mirotic situation was terrible! Do you really think he is going to play like this for them knowing that he isn't getting traded as of January? Nah. It won't take much to light a major fire in that locker room. They have a bunch of younglings that they don't want getting mixed up in it all. They have to ship him out.

My guess is that they want a young player or a draft pick but an expiring contract can't be too far behind. The NBA overspent in 2017 so expiring contracts should be more valuable, not less. If they can get a 1st rounder for Mirotic and an expiring, it would be done immediately IMHO. I just don't think there are many teams that have the flexibility to make that type of an offer. I would think the only teams that would take the risk would be teams competing for playoffs or competing for going deeper in the playoffs.

Someone like the Bucks, Knicks, Pacers, or Thunder. The Bucks don't have anything worth trading. The Knicks could do a Wily Hernangomez + stuff deal. Pacers might like him next to Myles Turner so they could do Domantus + stuff deal. The Thunder have enough ball hogs...

Would Cleveland or the Warriors want Mirotic? Well, SURE! But at what cost when you are paying $4 for every dollar you go over the cap? $12,000,000 x 4...

Spurs? Who would they trade? Bertans? Why not just keep the younger, cheaper, better attitude.

I mean... the list isn't THAT long as to teams that would be willing to give up much to get him. And Chicago keeping him sounds very risky.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Crowder is harder get than Mirotic...

 

[idiot]

Please remind me why we think Cleveland is eager to move Crowder. I see he's been quite terrible this year -- maybe that's it? (Remind me why we want him if he can't do well with the Cavs ...)

Just kidding ... at least a bit. But his relatively poor year (really not any better than Exum last year) in a situation where he was supposed to be the perfect fit has me wondering.

 

[framer]

Still want to see Mitchell, Hood, Jingles, Favors, Gobert lineup before trading anyone.

 

[LoPo]

Here's another plan:

Punt on the idea that there's a guy that ticks all the boxes and just fill the position by committee. Stock the team with large wings, and they can take turns on defensive assignments. Ingles is sometimes a "4" in such a system. Jae Crowder could be very useful in this pursuit as well.

I was just about to pose the idea of transitioning Ingles to full time PF sooner rather than later. He's not going to get faster and he's already 30. There are plenty of successful power forwards in the current NBA who are 6'8" 230. And with Jerekbo and even O'Neal, we could platoon the position.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Crowder is harder get than Mirotic...

And he might be a worse fit... I think I'm beginning to believe the Boston homers that he fell off last year... at least on the defensive end. I don't see his current play as an upgrade over Thabo. His contract and age make him more valuable obvi.