Nikola Mirotic

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ive given up hope for this lmao. Seems like too many teams interested. No way the Jazz should give up a 1st rounder.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Oh, I am guessing that this has already been posted but all Chicago has to do to get rid of Mirotic's trade veto power is pick up the second year on his contract. Most teams he is being traded to would want that anyways. So where he wants to go does not matter.

Chicago wants a first. The only way we are getting him is giving up a first. The only trade I see is if we send Favors or maybe (less likely) Burks somewhere else and they send salary and a 1st to Chicago. Or if we trade Burks or preferably Rubio for a lottery protected 1st.

Marc Stein: Important to note: If the Bulls pick up their team option on Nikola Mirotic for next season before trading him, Mirotic would lose his current veto power over a trade as because his current contract would become a two-year deal.

–via Twitter TheSteinLine

 

[Coach Ellis]

Ive given up hope for this lmao. Seems like too many teams interested. No way the Jazz should give up a 1st rounder.

I agree with this. Get him at a reasonable price, or move on to the next deal.

 

[LoPo]

NOLA has zero use for Favs...

If we can get a first rounder for one of our assets I’d rather have the first rounder... not send it off.

I stand firm... they won’t get a first rounder for him without taking back salary. I will give you Favs and a couple seconds if you want. Maybe they can find a home for Favs but time is not on their side.

It is widely known that the Pelicans will have to use their first rounder to dump Asik. Favors is an expiring big who can actually help NOLA's playoff chances. They get deeper into the playoffs with Favors, they re-sign Boogie with Asik being gone, and Pelican fans are happy.

As for the first, it goes to Chicago with Joe Johnson to get us Mirotic. We don't have to lose Hood, Exum or our first. All we have to do is agree to take Asik with Mirotic.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm always wary of buying high on a hot streak from a player. Why take his 15 games this year as representative of what Mirotic is rather than the 3 years of utter mediocrity he showed previously. Count me as a skeptic.

This. You can argue that the way they use him has changed etc. etc., but he is very likely to be a 35-40% 3 point shooter going forward. The 46% is not real.

I'm also skeptical they will get a 1st from Detroit or Portland without eating the Leuer or Leonard contracts. Both teams have bad cap situations and both should be looking to cut salary not add to it. I'm guessing that he would not waive his no trade for Detroit, so they'd be guaranteeing that money.

I'm not giving a 1st even if we get to dump AB.

Someone else can overpay if they would like.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It is widely known that the Pelicans will have to use their first rounder to dump Asik. Favors is an expiring big who can actually help NOLA's playoff chances. They get deeper into the playoffs with Favors, they re-sign Boogie with Asik being gone, and Pelican fans are happy.

As for the first, it goes to Chicago with Joe Johnson to get us Mirotic. We don't have to lose Hood, Exum or our first. All we have to do is agree to take Asik with Mirotic.

I'd rather have the NOLA pick than Mirotic and it is not close.

 

[LoPo]

I'd rather have the NOLA pick than Mirotic and it is not close.

Interesting. You'd rather have Asik and a pick around 20 than Asik and Mirotic?

 

[radiohegel]

Oh, I am guessing that this has already been posted but all Chicago has to do to get rid of Mirotic's trade veto power is pick up the second year on his contract. Most teams he is being traded to would want that anyways. So where he wants to go does not matter.

This has actually been refuted (not entirely sure who to believe). According to Dan Clayton, there is actually no mechanism by which a team can deny their option mid season, meaning Chicago can't simply "pick up" the second year right now. Instead, they would have to ammend the current contract, which would require a mutual agreement with Mirotic.

So, he maybe does keep his veto power, after all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This has actually been refuted (not entirely sure who to believe). According to Dan Clayton, there is actually no mechanism by which a team can deny their option mid season, meaning Chicago can't simply "pick up" the second year right now. Instead, they would have to ammend the current contract, which would require a mutual agreement with Mirotic.

So, he maybe does keep his veto power, after all.

Marc Stein reported it, so I take his knowledge over Dan Clayton, no offense to Clayton.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Interesting. You'd rather have Asik and a pick around 20 than Asik and Mirotic?

NO is a 15-20 pick and yes.

Mirotic is not worth a 1st and expiring contracts imo. They will not get that from Portland or Detroit... both will stick them with an ugly contract.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Marc Stein reported it, so I take his knowledge over Dan Clayton, no offense to Clayton.

Dan is good with CBA stuff. It has been reported they could do what stein says so I’m inclined to say Dan is wrong, but who knows. I’d make damn sure I knew if I was the jazz.

 

[radiohegel]

Dan is good with CBA stuff. It has been reported they could do what stein says so I’m inclined to say Dan is wrong, but who knows. I’d make damn sure I knew if I was the jazz.

Ok, looks like Dan has now backtracked and is saying he misinterpreted the sitiation.