This is essentially the post I was going to make last night and then again this morning, but haven't gotten around to it. Forrest is fine. I've liked him since pre-season last year. He's a solid guy to have on the deep bench. He's kinda like a Jarron Collins option. We overplayed Collins and he was a huge opportunity cost. That's not to say that this is at all at the same level, but similar principle. Quin's shown that he's carved out a specific role for a 10 mpg PG off the bench. He's not making tons of mistakes but he's not bringing anything specific of value. He's essentially a place-holder whose largest function is to help limit Conley's minutes. Those minutes will go to Conley in the playoffs. Forrest, on a 2-way, isn't even eligible for the playoffs, so his getting minutes now isn't serving any purpose other than less miles on Conley's odometer. He isn't a lock-down defender and he isn't a huge disrupter, but he's a capable defender. Unfortunately, that makes him a "really good defender," or something like that, when compared to the rest of our guys. But simply being a capable defender isn't doing anything for us in 10 mpg. This was the role I saw Butler getting this year (the Neto role). I thought it would be good because it would give us some flexibility and allow us to further limit Mike and Joe's minutes. My preference was for Dunn, but people really liked the idea of developing Butler. Dunn is a guy who can come in and definitely make his presence known in 10 minutes. He can get that burn during the season and also be an option for the playoffs. Dunn's strength would be significantly magnified in a 10 mpg role while his limitations would be almost entirely mitigated when he's in that role rather than in a 25-30 mpg role. It's an option that we need and currently don't have. And he can be brought in to be a perimeter defender, and not just the de facto PG because Mike isn't on the floor. It's mind-numbingly stupid that we haven't looked at this. You can argue health and whatnot, but we've given no indication at all that we recognize we need something like this. Would we rather roll the dice on a minimum guy who could be that guy, or do we keep the status quo of what we know won't be? It only require waiving Oni. It's like picking the kids up from school and forgetting your phone inside. Your wife asks you from inside if you want her to bring your phone (she's coming with you anyway) and you say, nah... I probably won't need it. The cost of getting the phone is nothing and the likelihood of saying 'damn, I should have brought my phone' is pretty high. Oh, I know, I know... "but your battery could be dead! Maybe you'll incur roaming charges! Cell phones cause cancer!!! Maybe you'll get pulled over for texting while driving!!!!"My issue with Forrest/Oni is as follows:
- He's fine... are we going to rely on him in the playoffs.
- If we are developing a guy why not have it be Butler who just has so much more upside.
- If we are valuing a defensive stopper or "win-now" value... why not cut Oni and sign Dunn or Galloway. Both guys would likely out perform Forrest and we are much more likely to rely on one of these guys in the playoffs if we had to.
If Dunn is currently healthy it is malpractice that we have not signed him. Yes I am getting @infection fired up. Go ahead and look at what Gary Payton is doing with deflections and the Warriors defense. Dunn is the same disruptive defender and can do exactly what Forrest is doing on offense. I get that the GM gets some sort of bonus points for a guy that develops in house but a minimum deal is a minimum deal. Having a healthy Dunn makes it much more likely you'd feel good resting Mike.
If we are thrilled with Forrest and Dunn isn't healthy then go on ahead and continue down this path... but cut Oni and sign a Darius Miller or Langston Galloway... two guys that can actually shoot. They may be waiting to see if something better comes up and that is fine but it does take a little time to integrate vets too.