On the record...

[sahlensguy]

Probably what excited me the most once the Gobert and Mitchell deals were done is the fact that it’s not super uncommon from year to year to see a team we all think should be contending start to underachieve. Not only that, once the wheels start to come off, you see these teams get a little more nervous about their star’s health.

Exactly what's going on with my Buffalo Bills...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Probably what excited me the most once the Gobert and Mitchell deals were done is the fact that it’s not super uncommon from year to year to see a team we all think should be contending start to underachieve. Not only that, once the wheels start to come off, you see these teams get a little more nervous about their star’s health.

If Minnesota is still **** by the all star break, I could easily see them shutting down KAT or Gobert if injuries start to pop up. Sure, they’re not getting a good draft pick out of it, but they pushed all of their chips to the center of the table when they acquired Gobert and there’s a lot to be said about living to fight another day.

They arent going to sit players if they are struggling lmao. That's the time they should be working to figure it out.

 

[YoungJefe]

There is nothing quite vindicating as this entire thread and me absolutely crushing a ton of people on here about Minnesota.

Cy getting absolutely crushed by me for pages and pages is just glorious especially how matter of fact he talked and speaking in absolutes he was.

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[YoungJefe]

I don't think Rudy is the main problem either, but I also think he is probably the kind of player who demands a lot from himself, and from others, and if there are (in his eyes) stupid locker-room issues being in the way of a good team, I think he'll be pissed off at those who he sees to be the problem, perhaps making things worse.

I don't think he was the primary cause of the locker room problems here, but I think he was part of making it hard to fix.

As I told everyone during the offseason the Wolves were good last year because they played extremely fast, KAT stretched the floor, and they shot 3s. They've fundamentally had to change the way that they play for Rudy and they don't have the shooting, defense, or playmaking to make it work.

 

[YoungJefe]

He is still playing at an elite level .Teams were interested should still be interested.

The Wolves offense has been significantly worse when Rudy is on the floor.

 

[homeytennis]

Did anyone notice DM lost to the Kings last night?

 

[HermanG]

Did anyone notice DM lost to the Kings last night?

DM didnt lose. Garland did.

 

[Swuul]

If Minnesota is still **** by the all star break, I could easily see them shutting down KAT or Gobert if injuries start to pop up. Sure, they’re not getting a good draft pick out of it, but they pushed all of their chips to the center of the table when they acquired Gobert and there’s a lot to be said about living to fight another day.

Considering their pick next summer is the NYK 2nd round pick, I see absolutely no reason they would start to tank. A team kinda automatically go into anti-tank mode when they trade away their picks.

 

[fishonjazz]

They arent going to sit players if they are struggling lmao. That's the time they should be working to figure it out.

Ya there is no way they rest healthy guys for no reason. What would be the incentive?

 

[YoungJefe]

Ya there is no way they rest healthy guys for no reason. What would be the incentive?

Prevent injuries in a lost season

 

[fishonjazz]

Prevent injuries in a lost season

Why would they worry about injuries if the season is lost anyway though? There is an off season to get healthy. Players can get hurt in practice or riding a bike or fishing or whatever too.

 

[fallenchicken]

Gobert Stan’s will never admit it, but Gobert with his contract is not a good nba player. You can’t pay a defense only center who can’t catch and punish small-ball lineups 30% of your cap and expect to win at the highest levels of the modern nba. And there does seem to be real chemistry issues with him. Everyone was so focused on blaming Donovan because he had clearly given up—which is fair—that they ignored the real problem with the team. He’s a great guy and good at what he does, but you can’t build around Gobert in the modern nba.

I honestly didn’t think they’d get much considering how bad his contract is going to be in a few years, this trade was Ainge’s masterpiece. It’ll probably go down as the biggest fleece in NBA history, especially if things fall apart in Minny, which I think, they’re going to. Kat is mentally soft, and Anthony Edwards already has a similar relationship to gobert that Mitchell had. And Edwards isn’t half as good of a guy as Mitchell. It’s going to get ugly there.