Pierce, Kemba, Utah

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  1. Shad

    Shad Well-Known Member

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    Waiving Exum gets us Kemba at Max (which is 45893290524390584329058345904325834025823405823495023405234905342950 times worth it).
     
  2. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    No. We are still on the hook for his salary if we waive him, assuming no team is stupid enough to claim him off waivers.
     
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  3. Shad

    Shad Well-Known Member

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    They could stretch it out but yeah, you're pretty much right. I still can't believe we signed him
     
  4. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    I like Kemba. Don't think he's gonna sign here, but I would love to have him.
     
  5. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    It's hard to see a wink on the interweb
     
  6. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    I mean, suggesting Kemba Walker as our 3string guard behind Rubio...

    99% of posters would be joking around, with that 1% being either ncolorodojazz or melothejazz killer
     
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  7. TheStormofWar

    TheStormofWar Well-Known Member

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    Utah needs to target a PG. Kemba is a damn good one. If it were to happen, I would not be opposed. ALL THE POINTZ!
     
  8. Pastramiking

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    I think Conley is a better fit for Utah. Kemba + Mitchell would be a small and too ball-dominant backcourt. Conley has better size, a better defender and can play off the ball more
     
  9. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    I googled kemba walker size and Mike Conley size. Both came up as 6 foot 1

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  10. New_Jazz_Order

    New_Jazz_Order Banned

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    Kemba going to laugh at Utah. Conley is more realistic as he's a trade target. But we don't know if Jazz have the assets and why that trade didn't happen. Also Exum may have even less value this summer as well as the draft pick.
     
  11. Jazz Spazz

    Jazz Spazz Inconceivable Staff Member

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    I don't think pastrami meant height. I'm not good at this sarcasm stuff.
     
  12. NUMBERICA

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    For the record, the last time I ran the numbers, the Jazz can actually get max cap room without dumping Exum and will have a couple of million leftover (+ the room exception). Of course, that means letting everyone walk that can, but, yeah.
     
  13. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    What do you think he meant by kemba and Mitchell being too small but conley and Mitchell not being to small? And what did he mean by conley has better size than kemba?
    Kemba: 6 foot 1 and 184 lbs.
    Mike conley: 6 foot 1 and 175 lbs.

    What am I missing? Or do you think his entire post was being sarcastic like he was trying to say that they are the same in a sarcastic way? What did that post mean?
    I took it as sincerity and don't see any sign of sarcasm. He seemed to have good points (and true points) about conley being a better defender and better suited to play off ball.
     
  14. LoPo

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    I'm pretty sure we can have around $33 million available if we renounce Favors, Rubio, Thabo, Udoh, Niang, and Neto.

    The Salary Cap for 2019-20 will be $109 million (up $7 million from 18-19).
    The Luxury Tax Limit will be $134 million (up $8 million from 18-19).
    https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nba-sets-salary-cap-2019-20-2020-21-seasons-020033583.html

    For 2019-20, here are the contracts:
    Gobert $25
    Ingles $12
    Exum $9.6
    Crowder $7.8
    Korver $7.5 ($3.5 ETO - but not happening)
    Mitchell $3.6
    Allen $2.5
    Bradley $2
    O'Neale $1.6 (team option - but not happening)
    Draft pick cap hold $2
    Lowest Salary Realistically Possible: $76 Million (includes minimum salaries to meet full roster requirement)

    Favors $16.9 (team option on 7/6/2019)
    Neto $2 (team option on 7/6/2019)
    Niang $1.6 (team option - guarantees 1/10/20)
    TOTAL: $94 million (if we picked up all team options)

    These guys count against cap space until we either re-sign or renounce them
    Rubio $22.5 cap hold
    Thabo $6.8 cap hold
    Udoh $4.4 cap hold
     
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  15. framer

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    He took a long term team friendly contract once before. I think he would take a four year averaging 14 million over 2 years at 19 million somewhere else to stay with the Jazz. It certainly is not out of the question. Is someone going to pay Favors 20 million over 4 years?
     
  16. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    5 million per year? Yes.

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  17. NUMBERICA

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    It was a fair-market deal at the time he signed his extension.

    I don't know what Favors' hopes and motivations are, nor do I know his market. I could see him taking as low as $12 million a year on a multi-year (because what is his actual market in this NBA?), but I think it's more likely he either gets his option exercised at $18 million, or he signs a one-year deal on a steep discount with the Jazz retaining Bird Rights and getting a longterm deal the next year (even though this is in essence, but not technically, circumventing the CBA).
     
  18. New_Jazz_Order

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    Silver is going to dock Jazz draft picks for that.
     
  19. framer

    framer Well-Known Member

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    They said nothing when Pau Gasol did the same thing back in 2017.
     
  20. bigmike

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    A top flight PG really puts this squad over the top. Love Rubio's spirit, shtick, etc. but we need a stud to put next to 45.
     

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