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Predict the Rudy Gobert trade

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think my realistic best case scenario is we do the Chicago or Atlanta deal and flip 16 or 18 with Conley for KCP/Ish/10... or you send Bogey/the pick for #7 (hopefully they use the trade exception so we don't have to give out value for dumping salary somewhere). I could also see a simultaneous deal where you send Bogey/16 for Bledsoe/7 and then send Royce into their trade exception for their 37th pick and a couple future seconds.

I think trading Rudy and Bogey or Mike will leave a vacuum that will cause the Donovan/Jazz partnership to explode in terrible ways.
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Jazz are in a unique position where they can offer a team in the lottery a valuable player and also keep them in the mid-1st round. Bojan and Mike are valuable enough to justify moving back from #10 to #16 or #18. Jazz could then pick up Duren, Sochan, Williams, etc. as their young prospect with upside.

John Collins, Kevin Huerter, plus a lottery pick isn't bad for the Jazz. Then ATL can add a protected FRP or two. It's enough to make the deal happen.
 
I think Rudy gets traded today. I have always respected Rudy. He improved to a level greater than everybody thought he could be. I will wish him the best.

People think I dislike him but I don't. I just don't put much value on rim protecting bigs much less max contract rim protecting bigs. I don't think Rudy will be as successful with Quin now gone in a new system not built around him.

Overall, I think our team chemistry will improve after this trade because I'm not so sure teammates like playing with Rudy. At least that is the vibe that I get. I don't know if he's too emotional or incorrigible, but that's just the feeling I get.

I will wish him the best.



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I think Gobert gets traded today as well. Just too much smoke, yet seem unbelievable. This is how the other major deals/changes in Jazz history have felt to me.

I'll reserve feelings/opinions for if it actually happens, but I'm definitely more ok with the idea now than I was a month ago. I'm kind of mentally/emotionally adjusting for it to happen.
 
Rudy probably gets dealt today. I don't attach any emotion to it. Rudy has been absolutely phenomenal, more than anyone could have asked for. However, this team needs change drastically. New coaching, new systems, new players. If our All-world defensive center cannot punish teams for the obvious smallball mismatch, we need to do something about it.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Rudy probably gets dealt today. I don't attach any emotion to it. Rudy has been absolutely phenomenal, more than anyone could have asked for. However, this team needs change drastically. New coaching, new systems, new players. If our All-world defensive center cannot punish teams for the obvious smallball mismatch, we need to do something about it.
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Can't believe how strong this fake news narrative has become. Rudy isn't the problem, it is the rest of the team. No defense and selfish offense. We replace Rudy and we fall to the very bottom on defense, combined with small easily-negated guards and that is a recipe for disaster. Rudy has been our floor raiser the entire time he has been here. We are about to see the floor drop right out from under us. Lottery here we come.

Step 1: Trade rudy
Step 2: Lottery next 2 seasons
Step 3: Donovan asks out
Step 4:....
Step 5: profit?

Unless they get a stellar package this is our likely trajectory. Sure hope they don't botch this like they did the Conley and Favors trades.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Rudy probably gets dealt today. I don't attach any emotion to it. Rudy has been absolutely phenomenal, more than anyone could have asked for. However, this team needs change drastically. New coaching, new systems, new players. If our All-world defensive center cannot punish teams for the obvious smallball mismatch, we need to do something about it.
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I happen to agree 100% with this post. Rudy isn't the problem, but building around him also hasn't been the solution.

Trading him isn't blaming him - it is wise asset management

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SoberasHotRod said:
I think Gobert gets traded today as well. Just too much smoke, yet seem unbelievable. This is how the other major deals/changes in Jazz history have felt to me.

I'll reserve feelings/opinions for if it actually happens, but I'm definitely more ok with the idea now than I was a month ago. I'm kind of mentally/emotionally adjusting for it to happen.
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There’s smoke, but the jazz value him more than other teams. If teams low ball them he won’t get traded. Who knows that could entice the jazz to trade Mitchell who is probably valued more around the league. I hope this happens.
 
I think Rudy gets traded today for 60 cents on the dollar. The discussion on this board will then turn into the we got screwed vs. the Rudy wasn’t worth much crowd.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Can't believe how strong this fake news narrative has become. Rudy isn't the problem, it is the rest of the team. No defense and selfish offense. We replace Rudy and we fall to the very bottom on defense, combined with small easily-negated guards and that is a recipe for disaster. Rudy has been our floor raiser the entire time he has been here. We are about to see the floor drop right out from under us. Lottery here we come.

Step 1: Trade rudy
Step 2: Lottery next 2 seasons
Step 3: Donovan asks out
Step 4:....
Step 5: profit?

Unless they get a stellar package this is our likely trajectory. Sure hope they don't botch this like they did the Conley and Favors trades.
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This is exactly how I feel. Don't like spending big money on an elite defensive presence? Let's see how you like next season without Rudy when we have no defense at all.
 
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