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fishonjazz said:
Franklin also said burks sucks and would never be any good.

Oh and corbin is teh best
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I'm sorry you got trolled.

Oh, and I'm sorry you can't see the massive deficits in Burks' game.

(btw, I think Burks' is a good player... and probably gonna get better... I'm a fan and always have been... but franklin has good points against Burks.)
 
NUMBERICA said:
Making an assessment after three years isn't "quickly". You can do that rather accurately with most players.
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I think its quick to judge considering the roles/minutes given to them along with the corbin effect.

Also kanter didnt play college ball and has not been playing any type of basketball very long in relation to other nba players, so i think kanter is an exception.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
I think you read too much into comments made. I'm not too concerned about comments made not in a native tongue that can have lots of interpretation. I did see some willingness to make some passes from elbow/high post at the beginning of the year, but the failed attempts led Corbin to try to limit Kanter to his strong suits, namely one-on-one post play which turned out to be minorly helpful short term and malproductive long term.
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Fair enough.

Tough to get the incentives right when you have young players and a coach without a contract.

Hopefully Kanter gets some time playing basketball with Turkey this summer. Playing ball is probably more valuable than lifting weights for Kanter.
 
I still believe in Kanter, but the dude has to come to camp in super shape this year. I know last year he had the whole shoulder injury deal, but still his lack of conditioning was alarming.

And say what you want about Richard Jefferson, but his end of season interview was eye opening when he said Kanter didn't believe defense was that important.
 
Tarkanian said:
so you are using in your comparisons a Boozer, who played in a Sloan team with great players like DWill, AK and Memo?
Jazz of last year were as organized as a D-League team, at best.
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Corbin instituted a lot of Sloan's plays, including the flex offense. Kanter couldn't do it, so they changed stuff around.

Again, in Boozer's third year, first with the Jazz, he played in positive lineups with Keith McLeod and Jarron Collins on the floor with him at the same time.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];837791 said:
I'm sorry you got trolled.

Oh, and I'm sorry you can't see the massive deficits in Burks' game.

(btw, I think Burks' is a good player... and probably gonna get better... I'm a fan and always have been... but franklin has good points against Burks.)
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Franklin didnt have points against burks in his post im referring to.

His post simply stated "burks sucks"

You and i disagree with that

Also i think kanter is currently a better basketball player than kwame brown (the player frank compared kanter too)
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
And say what you want about Richard Jefferson, but his end of season interview was eye opening when he said Kanter didn't believe defense was that important.
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Kind of a dick move imo.
Especially for a guy that had one foot out the door all year long
 
fishonjazz said:
Kind of a dick move imo.
Especially for a guy that had one foot out the door all year long
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It was an interesting comment. He's a guy who played more minutes than he would have elsewhere and the fan base, in general, was upset he was playing in place of younger guys. I'm sure from his perspective that's frustrating, which I would assume led to that dickish comment to vindicate himself and playing time.
 
GVC said:
Maybe Corbin was getting the most out of both Burks and Kanter.
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I'll actually agree for the most part with this, but at the cost of long term development. Minutes were fine, but Kanter and Burks are young enough to mold their skills a little more rather than play solely to their strengths. Hard line to balance.
 
GVC said:
As opposed to the young player who hasn't proven **** in the league stating that the veterans should have played less?
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Both dick moves imo.
One was from a veteran leaving the team (who i expect to be more of a professional) and one was from a kid with a language barrier doe.

But ya what kanter said was wrong too. (Notice how i agreed with you about that?)
 
In looking at Kanter's numbers, I'm pretty surprised at how much worse he was in his third year in compared to his second. Efficiency in every category was way down. Only his turnover percentage and defensive rebounding rate were up. Shoulder shouldn't have affected him THAT much.

FG%, FT%, free throw rate, Offensive rebound %, block %, steal %, win shares/48, True Shooting %, Effective field goal %, PER, all way down. Total rebound rate and Assist rate were in same ball park.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
I'll actually agree for the most part with this, but at the cost of long term development. Minutes were fine, but Kanter and Burks are young enough to mold their skills a little more rather than play solely to their strengths. Hard line to balance.
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For sure. Having a lame duck coach didn't help.
 
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