Privileged by Kyle Korver

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by JazzGal, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    I don't even know where to start with this much ignorance. Although I do appreciate you including the bit about your prejudice against brown people, even though it was never brought up. It's important for racists to be multifaceted in their bigotry.

    And capitalism can suck my dick.

    The day will come when the industrialists will claim that we can no longer afford entitlements (gee, those immigrants sure could've helped), while the poor cheer for them as they wallow in their poverty. I wonder if you'll still think the poor are your enemy then, and if you'll still be cheering for Rupert Murdoch.
     
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  2. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    I assume your reply accidentally got attached to the wrong post because other than your comment about capitalism (which tells me we are worlds apart in our perspectives) I don't even know what comments you are referring to. What did I say about brown people?
     
  3. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    Pretty amazing that this exchange came about because you claimed there was no reason for you to back up your claims that white supremacy is mainstream, and then that you claimed that you did back up your claim by saying that white people are doing better than black people economically.
    Just realized that I probably misinterpereted your comment about capitalism. I would not let anyone or anything that I didn't love ever suck any part of me, and I assume you are the same.
     
  4. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    The immigration part. You brought it up in your declaration of beliefs. Right after the part where you were explaining how blacks are to blame for their poverty. As for capitalism, it's nothing more than an economic system. I knew you'd take my cuss personally given the hilarious reverence you showed in your so called response.
     
  5. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    I mentioned the immigration part because it is very relevant to the wage challenges that unskilled workers face. It does not matter what color any of these people's skin are. What matters is that America is an amazing land of opportunity for millions of people but it cannot stay that way if we simply open the borders and let everyone in. There are very legitimate reasons for putting a system of legal immigration in place (and for trying to prevent illegal immigration). I'm not sure what your last sentence means. What is clear from this exchange is that our views are a long, long way apart. I certainly hope I never have to experience the America that the ideals you are striving for would create. I have a feeling that it would turn out vastly different than the utopia you have in mind.
     
  6. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Oh ya, the unrealistic utopia where people feel the same way you do about America regardless of race. It's okay though. It's their fault they can't take advantage of this amazing land of opportunity. If only they were as hard working as white people.
     
  7. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    No, the unrealistic utopia where wealth is redistributed and the government takes care of everything. Unfortunately that experiment has been played out many times. It turns out that when you take away the incentives to excel and innovate that pretty much everything goes to hell. As bad as you apparently think America is, there are damn good reasons that so many people for so many generations from so many other cultures have given up so much in order to try to get here.
     
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  8. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I don't want to get into this argument but isn't the idea of communism a distribution of **** and no incentives and stuff?

    Isn't China innovative and somewhat prosperous?

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  9. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you are suggesting that China is the sort of country you would like to live in I would suggest you have a five minute conversation with anyone who has ever set foot on Chinese soil.
     
  10. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I know lots of people choose to go there for some reason (I think our very own Ron Mexico is moving there. I also had a cousin who moved there, made hella money and got rich and then came back to the US and retired) but mostly I was speaking to innovation
    They are a pretty innovative country it seems to me.

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  11. Scorpjazz

    Scorpjazz Well-Known Member

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    Just, nope..
     
  12. Mission Accomplished

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  13. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    I know why Korver sucks now. He doesnt want to win because that would be white privilege.

    What a cuck
     
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  14. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Damn, I wish I could show up for work, do absolutely nothing and make $89,000.
     
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  15. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    Interesting take. If stealing western technology is considered to be an innovation then I agree with you that they are at the cutting edge.
     
  16. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    No one cares about guilt. Guilt doesn't do anything by itself.

    He did.
     
  17. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    I heard jokes about this, in one way or another, frequently for the first 40 years of my life.
     
  18. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    It is also disadvantageous that, due to racist policing, the black father who did drugs was more likely to be stopped, searched, arrested, and charged, and treated more harshly at every step through the system. But go ahead and blame people who feel they have no viable, legal means of earning a living for turning to crime.

    Then you believe something contrary to known fact.

    This would not matter if the education systems in poor black communities turned out people who would be skilled workers.

    What would you be willing to do to fix that?

    You support children being given less chance to prove their merit based upon their parents actions. How aristocratic of you.

    As long as black people are twice as good as white people at their jobs, they are allowed to live as equals. How noble of you.

    I agree, as would countries like Sweden, Denmark, Germany, etc. Capitalism works best when paired with socialism.
     
  19. candrew

    candrew Well-Known Member

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    You'd think this article would've earned Kyle a couple open 3's in Game 1
     
  20. Ron Mexico

    Ron Mexico Well-Known Member Contributor

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    They do that, not that doesn't mean they also don't innovate. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Anecdotally, most the people I've talked to about living in China loved it. I've asked a lot of people about their experience there and isn't almost all positive.
     

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