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Well, I wasn’t going to start posting till the playoffs started but this article by Korver really hit home with me. I have seen a lot of me in what Korver writes about his first thoughts about Thabo being arrested. @Tak ... truer words weren’t spoken by Korver than shut up and listen!! Since Martin Luther King JR and probably before him they’ve shouted this message. The predominant thing we will here from some white people is that there isn’t a problem that racism lives because the black communities won’t let it go, so how refreshing it is to me to here one of my own in Korver, another white man telling us we need to shut up, move past our pride, and not only hear the message but do something about it. I’ve been guilty of the same thing Korver described in the first part of the article.

If we would all shut up and listen, maybe we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Who will decide who will shut up and when?
 
I've read the whole article not only as a personal experience but also as an invitation to do the same. Under that light it sounds authoritarian. If it's just the former you're right, he can impose what he wants to himself.

He did. :)
 
Who will decide who will shut up and when?
You’ve just proven my point. Look at the whole Kaepernick saga. He protested against injustice with police, and the presidents responce was that if he didn’t like it he should leave, and when many of the players within the nfl spoke up he suggested they be fired thinking he could manipulate the nfl. Now one of our own is sick of it and telling us what we need to here, so shut the hell up and listen. That didn’t come from Kaep or some random black person. It came from someone that looks like me, and blends in with the majority of this state of Utah.

And if we are being honest, I wonder how much different the reaction would be or the conversation would be if Korver was black.
 
You’ve just proven my point. Look at the whole Kaepernick saga. He protested against injustice with police, and the presidents responce was that if he didn’t like it he should leave, and when many of the players within the nfl spoke up he suggested they be fired thinking he could manipulate the nfl. Now one of our own is sick of it and telling us what we need to here, so shut the hell up and listen. That didn’t come from Kaep or some random black person. It came from someone that looks like me, and blends in with the majority of this state of Utah.

And if we are being honest, I wonder how much different the reaction would be or the conversation would be if Korver was black.

One of YOUR own, not MY own. Can I talk now sir?
 
This was a good read. Kyle Korver is a very thoughtful, profound, sincere and overall great guy. You can tell this issue has been weighing on him a lot and he needed to get what he felt off his chest.

There were a couple of parts that felt a little forced, and some things he wrote, I don't neccesarily agree with, but I stand by him. At the end of the day, it's bizarre that in 2019 people still judge people by the color of their skin.

I like the part where he said that he doesn't feel (this is paraphrasing) that white people should be held accountable for slavery and the socially acceptable racism of our forefathers, but responsible. That is such a great line and great way of thinking about it.

Tons of white people, living today, consider black people less intelligent than whites. IQ scores is a cornerstone of modern white supremacist movements. And that's one example of hundreds that can be given about racism in 2019.

People today are very much complicit and guilty. It's not just a problem of our forefathers ideology. It's our own.
 
I feel this is a fitting place to post this thought.

When the incident happened between Westbrook and the Utah fan this year, I wasn't actively posting. Shortly after the fan incident, I read online a second fan had been banned too.

I cringed and thought about what this other fan said to get banned. I got on YouTube and searched for the video and I came across a vlog post that showed what the fan said. I can't remember exactly what the video was titled, but it was something along the lines of Incredibly Racist Utah Fan - Unacceptable.

I watched the video and I was kind of confused. The guy called the player boy and all I could think was this is a bit of an overreaction. In fact, I typed out a comment and right before I hit enter, I decided to Google is calling someone boy racist.

After googling it, I did in fact find that calling someone boy is racist and it's history. I'm so glad I took one more step before I posted my comment.

I went back to the video and read the comments. Sure enough, someone posted the same question. I noticed the responses to the question were mean, condescending, and filled with hate. This made me feel bad.

I'm 35-years-old, and I had no idea calling someone boy was racists. People's reactions online towards something like this is to call the person ignorant and or privileged. Yeah, sure, those are possibilities. But instead of attacking someone because they have a different perspective, reality, life, experience than you, why are people not prone to educate others online? There's so much toxicity and mob mentality online.

After this all happened instead of feeling dumb or ignorant that I didn't know what boy meant, I felt a sense of happiness not knowing it. To me, this racist saying never caught traction in my surroundings or my upbringings and was long forgotten or never known. That's a silver lining to me.
 
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And if we are being honest, I wonder how much different the reaction would be or the conversation would be if Korver was black.

To me, I feel like Korver's article has caught so much traction and not because he's white, but because he's the right white guy to say this. (I really hope that makes sense.) I could see tons of white people writing articles about white privilege and racism, but they may not have the experiences, relationships and respect like Korver does. That's why Korver's is so powerful. It's been nice hearing what others on TV, the radio online think about it.

Korver is one respected dude. Be like Korver.
 
People today are very much complicit and guilty. It's not just a problem of our forefathers ideology. It's our own.
It's definitely a problem today, sadly.

The good thing is, racism is quantifiably less than our forefathers. The world is becoming more educated, less ignorant and more tolerant and is getting better at an incredibly fast rate. Saying this doesn't mean I don't recognize how bad racism is today. I don't think it will ever completely go away, but I feel the world can and will improve more.

I do not feel complicit or guilty. Do you?
 
I'm 35-years-old, and I had no idea calling someone boy was racists. People's reactions online towards something like this is to call the person ignorant and or privileged. Yeah, sure, those are possibilities. But instead of attacking someone because they have a different perspective, reality, life, experience than you, why are people not prone to educate others online? There's so much toxicity and mob mentality online.

After this all happened instead of feeling dumb or ignorant that I didn't know what boy meant, I felt a sense of happiness not knowing it. To me, this racist saying never caught traction in my surroundings or my upbringings and was long forgotten or never known. That's a silver lining to me.

Along these lines, there are some common phrases that have pretty discriminatory roots. Calling a black person "uppity" might be more well known, but things like selling someone down the river or referring to the peanut gallery also originated the same way. Using those phrases doesn't mean you're racist, and I don't think anyone would accuse someone of racism if they use those phrases, but it is something to be aware of.

https://www.businessinsider.com/offensive-phrases-that-people-still-use-2013-11
 
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