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jom2003 said:
Instead, we benched Kessler for the vets, allowed Pels to force OT, and risked getting vets injured with all the heavy minutes.
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How was Kessler going to stop Pels from forcing OT? The jazz scored what? 3 points from the 9minute mark until the last minute or so? This makes no sense, he doesn’t need 30 minutes. What if Kessler is in instead of KO? Jazz probably lose. The fact Kessler is getting the minutes he is is huge and rare for the 22nd pick. Unless you are an elite talent most guys have to pay their dues, some more than others.

I mean how many situations are out there where a rookie drafted in the mid teens to 20’s play 30 minutes a game even on a bad team. It’s extremely rare. I’m starting to think the jazz and Ainge weren’t giving lip service when Danny stated the jazz weren’t tanking. I think they are building a team on the fly, I think they’ll be buyers, and are hunting wins. Teams in this mode don’t just Willy nilly throw in rookies and young guys they deem not ready for big minutes to help a team win.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
How was Kessler going to stop Pels from forcing OT? The jazz scored what? 3 points from the 9minute mark until the last minute or so? This makes no sense, he doesn’t need 30 minutes. What if Kessler is in instead of KO? Jazz probably lose. The fact Kessler is getting the minutes he is is huge and rare for the 22nd pick. Unless you are an elite talent most guys have to pay their dues, some more than others.

I mean how many situations are out there where a rookie drafted in the mid teens to 20’s play 30 minutes a game even on a bad team. It’s extremely rare. I’m starting to think the jazz and Ainge weren’t giving lip service when Danny stated the jazz weren’t tanking. I think they are building a team on the fly, I think they’ll be buyers, and are hunting wins. Teams in this mode don’t just Willy nilly throw in rookies and young guys they deem not ready for big minutes to help a team win.
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Well, believe it or not, Kessler currently has a 2.0 offense +/- and a whopping 141 offensive rating. Him being on the floor does make our offense flow better instead of settling for happy threes like we've seen year after year under Quin. Same reason Rudy made our offense better with his cutting and screen setting despite being limited offensively himself.

Him being on the floor may not have prevented a pels come back and forcing OT, but the fact is we almost blew pels out of the building with him on the floor then simply threw our lead away once we took him out.
 
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The main reason the Pelicans came back was we didn’t score for like a 6 minute stretch lol. McCollum got going offensively and hit some tough shots.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
How was Kessler going to stop Pels from forcing OT? The jazz scored what? 3 points from the 9minute mark until the last minute or so? This makes no sense, he doesn’t need 30 minutes. What if Kessler is in instead of KO? Jazz probably lose. The fact Kessler is getting the minutes he is is huge and rare for the 22nd pick. Unless you are an elite talent most guys have to pay their dues, some more than others.

I mean how many situations are out there where a rookie drafted in the mid teens to 20’s play 30 minutes a game even on a bad team. It’s extremely rare. I’m starting to think the jazz and Ainge weren’t giving lip service when Danny stated the jazz weren’t tanking. I think they are building a team on the fly, I think they’ll be buyers, and are hunting wins. Teams in this mode don’t just Willy nilly throw in rookies and young guys they deem not ready for big minutes to help a team win.
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And like I said, giving Mike Conley 36min in a game, Olynyk 37 or Lauri 39, given their injury history, does not help us reach whatever goal we are trying to reach this season.
 
jom2003 said:
Well, believe it or not, Kessler currently has a 2.0 offense +/- and a whopping 141 offensive rating. Him being in the floor does make our offense flow better instead of settling for happy threes like we've seen year after year under Quin. Same reason Rudy made our offense better with his cutting and screen setting despite being limited offensively himself.

Him being on the floor may not have prevented a pels come back and forcing OT, but the fact is we almost blew pels out of the building with him on the floor then simply threw our lead away once we took him out.
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Stop relying on those numbers for the fourth quarter, the jazz weren’t playing team ball in the fourth. Pels didn’t force OT because Kessler was on the bench. Pels forced OT, because the jazz abandoned the offense for that good old DM late game offense. The offense was completely different from what it was at any other part of the game with or without Kessler. If Lessler had played in that time frame his +/- numbers wouldn’t have been as good.
 
jom2003 said:
And like I said, giving Mike Conley 36min in a game, Olynyk 37 or Lauri 39, given their injury history, does not help us reach whatever goal we are trying to reach this season.
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They got those big minutes because of OT. Teams rarely do subs in ot either that’s not just a jazz thing. In regulation Conley had 31 min, Markkanen 34 min and KO 32
 
jom2003 said:
And like I said, giving Mike Conley 36min in a game, Olynyk 37 or Lauri 39, given their injury history, does not help us reach whatever goal we are trying to reach this season.
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All you are doing is second guessing coach in hind sight for a guy trying to win a game. This is pointless, unless you know more than the actual coach as to what this team needs.
 
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