GVC
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Reasons you left the LDS church.
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religions can be man-made, probably is in some aspects generally. "A man's reach should exceed his grasp". I'd say it makes for a better man to try to reach out. Or pray. Or search for "God". According to Jesus, per the report of the New Testament, it is a promise that if we seek we will find. . . . something. . . . . better for the seeking. Actually, it says we can "know", but obviously this is not something that will pass peer review in the Journal of American Psychiatry or somesuch research publication, and nobody else needs to have some jackbooted government thugs disciplining you if you just don't give a flying crap.
People will generally be whatever they are, warts, wishes, beliefs, prejudices and all. "Let sleeping dogs lie". Mark Twain spoke personal truth in making it "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie, but if there is much at stake, you'd better get a newspaper to do it. " This, historically, is the mission of our mainstream media even today, but Twain made his fortune telling lies for stock manipulators around the Comstock.
Another way to approach the idea of religion is to realize that people exercising their preferred imaginations is just everyday ordinary life. But what could be actually worthwhile is asking for the actual truth.
So I quit attending because I was making a nuisance of myself with no-no questions. But seeing how useless it is, maybe I'll start going again.
People will generally be whatever they are, warts, wishes, beliefs, prejudices and all. "Let sleeping dogs lie". Mark Twain spoke personal truth in making it "Let Sleeping Dogs Lie, but if there is much at stake, you'd better get a newspaper to do it. " This, historically, is the mission of our mainstream media even today, but Twain made his fortune telling lies for stock manipulators around the Comstock.
Another way to approach the idea of religion is to realize that people exercising their preferred imaginations is just everyday ordinary life. But what could be actually worthwhile is asking for the actual truth.
So I quit attending because I was making a nuisance of myself with no-no questions. But seeing how useless it is, maybe I'll start going again.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. This one caught me by surprise though... I've been an LDS member all my life and I've never heard anyone say that.
There is a general opinion among Mormons on the question of dinosaurs though, right? I can't remember what it was exactly. Something about death perhaps? They believe dinosaurs existed, but that things didn't die back then?
I've always heard that the earth was formed with existing matter and that dinosaurs were probably part of other worlds. It gives me a chuckle.
GVC
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Since I've jumped into this thread already, I may as well tell my story briefly. Joined the church at 14 in '96, went to BYU, served a mission, went back to BYU, taught at the MTC, got tired of trying to believe in something that didn't really make much sense to me and left. The end.
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In past centuries, not necessarily Mormons, but Christians, some preached that the fossil record was god's "trial runs."
Personally, I think god created these things cuz he could! Dinosaurs rock! I only wish that we could get enough dino DNA to at least recreate them somewhat like Jurassic Park!
I've also experienced members talk about the collective earth theory... That earth was created from parts of different worlds...
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And Trout, as much as I appreciate the posrep, it would be so much better if you just came out of hiding and joined the conversation.
I don't think I have an angry approach to the church, I just have an issue with people who regurgitate Sunday school ******** like "It gives me something better to shoot for, than just live, take what you want, and die". Statements like this read as extremely ignorant, condescending and dismissive to me (if you'll permit me to be redundant). If Jazzspazz was just trying to say he's an especially selfish person, who'd be an unrepentant hedonistic ******* without Jesus, I apologize if I responded harshly.
I'm not one to beat around the bush. I recall a visit my parents got from their home teachers when I was visiting them one weekend in Washington (shortly after I stopped attending church, my parents stopped attending). The home teachers asked why they stopped going to church, and they tried to be diplomatic, talking about politics, ward culture, other activities they preferred, etc. When they asked me, I just told them I don't believe in Jesus. I don't want those smiley ****ers, with their pastel polos and khakis, coming back to give me a lame spiritual thought, thinking I'm just going to get over whatever offended me enough to make me leave and come back to church some day. Mormons need to understand that not all people who leave the church do so because they were offended or want to sin. Just more Sunday school ********.
I don't think I have an angry approach to the church, I just have an issue with people who regurgitate Sunday school ******** like "It gives me something better to shoot for, than just live, take what you want, and die". Statements like this read as extremely ignorant, condescending and dismissive to me (if you'll permit me to be redundant). If Jazzspazz was just trying to say he's an especially selfish person, who'd be an unrepentant hedonistic ******* without Jesus, I apologize if I responded harshly.
I'm not one to beat around the bush. I recall a visit my parents got from their home teachers when I was visiting them one weekend in Washington (shortly after I stopped attending church, my parents stopped attending). The home teachers asked why they stopped going to church, and they tried to be diplomatic, talking about politics, ward culture, other activities they preferred, etc. When they asked me, I just told them I don't believe in Jesus. I don't want those smiley ****ers, with their pastel polos and khakis, coming back to give me a lame spiritual thought, thinking I'm just going to get over whatever offended me enough to make me leave and come back to church some day. Mormons need to understand that not all people who leave the church do so because they were offended or want to sin. Just more Sunday school ********.
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