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KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Stein graduated with honors in economics from Columbia.
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Yeah, I think his credentials speak for themselves. Went on to Yale Law School and graduated valedictorian. Also studied economics in Yale's graduate program. Was a speechwriter and lawyer for Nixon. Worked at The Department of Commerce as an economist. etc
 
trigg3r said:
Yeah, I think his credentials speak for themselves. Went on to Yale Law School and graduated valedictorian. Also studied economics in Yale's graduate program. Was a speechwriter and lawyer for Nixon. Worked at The Department of Commerce as an economist. etc
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Well, he said his grades were not that strong at Yale and that he was handed the title of valedictorian.

Also, Ben did not work under Nixon. His dad who was an economist did.
 
Sirkickyass said:
And has also gotten progressively crazier in the years since, becoming an evolution denier and one of the last people to trumpet subprime mortgages as a growth proposition as late as early 2008.

Put gently, Stein's political and economic philosophy could be called incoherent at best and absurdly cynical and calculating at worst.

And yes, I liked his game show.
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So you're saying we came from monkeys?
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
So you're saying we came from monkeys?
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I'm saying we weren't placed here fully formed 6,000 years ago by an invisible higher power who faked tremendous amounts of physical evidence to the contrary.

Also, good luck finding any list of Yale Valedictorians. I frankly doubt even that part of Ben Stein's story that says he was elected for a number of reasons:

1. I actually know several people who went to Yale law school and have said there is no such thing as a Valedictorian election.
2. Yale law has not had a traditional grading system by which he could even have reasoanbly judged his grades vs. his classmates since the 1960s. He graduated in 1970.
3. I have actually investigated this claim previously by calling Yale law school and asking about a historical list of valedictorians. They had no idea what I was talking about.
4. To date, I have come across no evidence of anyone else claiming to be a Yale law school valedictorian.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I'm saying we weren't placed here fully formed 6,000 years ago by an invisible higher power who faked tremendous amounts of physical evidence to the contrary.

Also, good luck finding any list of Yale Valedictorians. I frankly doubt even that part of Ben Stein's story that says he was elected for a number of reasons:

1. I actually know several people who went to Yale law school and have said there is no such thing as a Valedictorian election.
2. Yale law has not had a traditional grading system by which he could even have reasoanbly judged his grades vs. his classmates since the 1960s. He graduated in 1970.
3. I have actually investigated this claim previously by calling Yale law school and asking about a historical list of valedictorians. They had no idea what I was talking about.
4. To date, I have come across no evidence of anyone else claiming to be a Yale law school valedictorian.
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Maybe it was just a one thing.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Both sides want to slow deficit growth without causing an economic contraction. Conventional wisdom is that decreasing spending is contractionary. So is raising taxes. (Note: Painting it in the broadest terms possible, obviously not all spending cuts would be contractionary nor would all tax increases, but the bastardization of real economic theory leads to those points of conventional wisdom depending on your viewpoint).

Your position is unpopular because it's a contractionary double-whammy to the audience.
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Whereas, unnecessarily re-paving every road in America and locking up more and more non-violent people is popular.

America!
 
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