This is what happens when religious people want to put God everywhere in a secular society. So if that can be done then why not this?
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This is what happens when religious people want to put God everywhere in a secular society. So if that can be done then why not this?
And this group crosses the line because....
If the Ten Commandments is an acceptable monument to put outside of a courthouse, then so is this, and any other religious monument that does not violate the law in another way.
Darkwing Duck
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I love the line "Oklahoma's Judeo-Christian heritage." That heritage is subjugating non-Christians to terrible reserved lands while we "civilized" people lord over the natives.
MVP
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All religions should fall under same category. If Hindus, Muslims, Pagans or Satanists want to build their monuments and it is within the law, good for them.
Now who is this dude to make comments like that?
Republican Rep. Bobby Cleveland, who plans to introduce one such bill next year, said many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness. He dismissed the notion of Satanists erecting a monument at the Capitol.
"I think these Satanists are a different group," Cleveland said. "You put them under the nut category
Why? To me they are not any more nuts then any other religious group. Some want to worship God, some Satan, some Thunder or Oaks.
Now who is this dude to make comments like that?
Republican Rep. Bobby Cleveland, who plans to introduce one such bill next year, said many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness. He dismissed the notion of Satanists erecting a monument at the Capitol.
"I think these Satanists are a different group," Cleveland said. "You put them under the nut category
Why? To me they are not any more nuts then any other religious group. Some want to worship God, some Satan, some Thunder or Oaks.
addictionary
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I don't know much about satanism. But pushing too hard to have a satanist statue outside a court house is way out of concept no matter how much u dramaticize it .
MVP
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So lets say Satanists will build their monument of 11 Satanic rules of the Earth. Let see how that compares to 10 commandments.
The Ten Commandments
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet.
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Seems pretty fair to me.
The Ten Commandments
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet.
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Seems pretty fair to me.
MVP
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I think it actually might be good for public to know more about it. Some people imagine satanists as some kind of blood drinking drug addicts who burn crosses and churches when in reality there is not much difference between them or any other organized religion.
When I was in my 20's I was reading about it quite a bit and knew few satanists personally through underground music scene. Needless to say like any other religion it was not able to convince me to leave my free thinking ways.
It doesn't matter what the satanists are into. Let's say they worship satan because they believe he'd give them special treatment in hell. Or because they think he'd grant them three wishes. Or simply to rub into other people's faces. It doesn't matter. Public property does not belong to the government. It is public. It belongs to all of us. The government is just the caretaker. If the government decides to allow religious monuments on public land, then everyone should be allowed to erect them. Not just those on their list of favorite religions.
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