Well, I'm personally upset they even exist. But ya, I don't disagree. They should not be displayed on any public property! It's ****ing shameful.
Terrorism in Charleston, SC
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Well, I'm personally upset they even exist. But ya, I don't disagree. They should not be displayed on any public property! It's ****ing shameful.
You seem to be the one listening to Fox as you always seem to know what they are saying.
Nice drop of a "You people".
Despite your thrillerness and the fact that I disagree with much of what you say and how you present ideas... I agree about the confederate flag. It needs to be taken down and should not be allowed by any state government to be seen as tied to that government in any way. It is a symbol of rebellion against the federal government and has strong ties to racist action/beliefs. That should not be something state governments allow or support in any way.
similarly, it's like how the words "under God" were ADDED to the Pledge of Allegiance in the 1950's during the Communist "red" scare
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Exactly.
Sooooooooo many on the right today have absolutely no idea about the very history of this country. They use a revisionist history and a collection of either quotes from founding fathers taken out of context or completely rewritten to promote their ultra conservative agenda. It's like they've declared themselves the heirs of the noble and progressive FF. Instead, conservatives today resemble the backwards and racist secessionists of the confederacy.
The left might not be much better informed. But I rarely see a left winger citing (incorrectly) a FF to promote their agenda. Or claiming that "The Constitution" grants us certain rights. Typically left wingers compare how backwards we are to the rest of the industrialized world and how other countries do things better (health care, taxation, education, etc).
When talking to conservatives most had no idea about the history of that confed battle flag. Even fewer (and I've spoken to a few on social media lately) had no idea that southern states paved the way for the nazis in their practice of eugenics. Throughout the 20s, 30s and 40s the remnants of the American confederacy were leading the world in the practice of eugenics.
It wasn't until WWII (or perhaps a little before when the Nazis reved up their T4 peogram... Can't remember. I don't think the T4 killed/sterilized as many Germans as our eugenics programs) when the nazis tried to liquidate all evidence (especially human evidence) that Nazi Germany outpaced the American Confederacy in sterilizing minorities.
Then even AFTER the holocaust, the confederacy kept practicing eugenics. It wasn't until the 60s and 70s that it was finally banned.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
Ironic that the exact same mentality above pervades in those southern states even today. Blacks are the welfare queens and takers and burdens to the whites. Jim Crow laws and eugenics was a continuation of the civil war. Raising the confed battle flag was a continuation of the civil war. The perception that blacks are burdens to our society is a continuation of that war...
In many ways the civil war has never ended.
Let's take small steps in ending it, shall we? Taking down the battle flag is one of those Necessary steps.
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I'm sorry that Fox News listeners are ignorant. Maybe they should actually do some research and become informed?
The battle flag for whites is a rallying cry for aggression, oppression, and white supremacy. The battle flag for blacks is a symbol of slavery, suppression, and black inferiority.
Saying that the battle flag is merely a piece of cloth is like saying that this is a merely a piece of cloth:
Don't want to be labeled as ignorant? Then "you people" (those calling the flag merely a piece of cloth while ignoring the symbolism that it stands for millions) need to stop making ignorant statements about the flags meaning.
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I'm sorry that Fox News listeners are ignorant. Maybe they should actually do some research and become informed?
The battle flag for whites is a rallying cry for aggression, oppression, and white supremacy. The battle flag for blacks is a symbol of slavery, suppression, and black inferiority.
Saying that the battle flag is merely a piece of cloth is like saying that this is a merely a piece of cloth:
Don't want to be labeled as ignorant? Then "you people" (those calling the flag merely a piece of cloth while ignoring the symbolism that it stands for millions) need to stop making ignorant statements about the flags meaning.
Who are you even talking to? Who in this thread is "you people"? You've gone this far, you may as well call posters out by name. Who are these Fox News listeners you are talking to? You calling Siro a Fox News listening ignorant conservative?
Are you just ranting at Fox News listeners in general and not actually talking to any posters here?
I also think you are not fully understanding those that said the flag is just ink and fabric. Both perspectives can be right for different reasons. One for personal sanity and perspective among others, the other as ammo or motivation for a cause among others.
No! Any dissent form his opinion, no matter how small, and you are an ignorant Fox listener with no grasp of humanity or history! They have destroyed this country completely!
I say we stone them.
Legalize Mary Jane you mean?
DutchJazzer
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ok,
the whole issue with the flag banning is the left/liberals feel helpless. they create a culture of victims.
everything is offensive and offensive things should be banned.
the problem with this is i think it was mr huckabee. he asked why did people not do anything fight back.
and this is a reasonable question but the cnn anchor(i think it was cnn might be another blind biased leftist liberal media) was clearly offended and was like wtf how could he!
so yes it is a valid questions. i tend to be believed due to my training that if i am unarmed with 9 other people and someone pulls out a handgun and starts shooting, i'm not the first or 2nd to get shot. i would have charged the scrawny litle punk kid!
but the guy got to shoot 9 people he even stopped to reload in the words of lebron james "not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4" but supposedly 5 ****ing times! and nobody tried and stop him? with all due respect to the victims and their family. they are not only victims they have a victim mentality or for my liberal friends who find this offensive they have a pacifist mentality.
society fears guns, society fears bad man.
but instead of thinking hmm maybe we should "educate" people, and not breed more victims. it is pretty logical a gun has bullets. their is a line of fire. you need to be a few 100 yards away to get out of the line of fire, find cover or get close to the shooter(charge him as a group, or wait to reload and charge him). but we fear guns as these unstoppable ungodly like magical devices.
now this brings me back to the issue of the banning of flag from government/public. now these leftist groups who have a victim mentality (the freeze group of the 3 f's flight, fight and freeze). now that the "monster" is in jail and we are safe we try to do something to take back control. so they started with banning the flag and now thinking of banning certain statues in whatever the building is called. because they had generals from the south but they want those banned. but fail to see the sheer hypocracy of that suggestion. because in those same halls there are statues of george washington, thomas jefferson en benjamin franklin. a those founding fathers are part of 12 presidents that owned slaves. why aren't they calling for those statues to be banned. exactly they wanna eradicate the southern culture.
those left and liberals are victims who want control but going about it in the wrong way.
but to me liberals act like the same cowards in isis controlled territories. and are destroying culture and art.
hope i made my point
the whole issue with the flag banning is the left/liberals feel helpless. they create a culture of victims.
everything is offensive and offensive things should be banned.
the problem with this is i think it was mr huckabee. he asked why did people not do anything fight back.
and this is a reasonable question but the cnn anchor(i think it was cnn might be another blind biased leftist liberal media) was clearly offended and was like wtf how could he!
so yes it is a valid questions. i tend to be believed due to my training that if i am unarmed with 9 other people and someone pulls out a handgun and starts shooting, i'm not the first or 2nd to get shot. i would have charged the scrawny litle punk kid!
but the guy got to shoot 9 people he even stopped to reload in the words of lebron james "not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4" but supposedly 5 ****ing times! and nobody tried and stop him? with all due respect to the victims and their family. they are not only victims they have a victim mentality or for my liberal friends who find this offensive they have a pacifist mentality.
society fears guns, society fears bad man.
but instead of thinking hmm maybe we should "educate" people, and not breed more victims. it is pretty logical a gun has bullets. their is a line of fire. you need to be a few 100 yards away to get out of the line of fire, find cover or get close to the shooter(charge him as a group, or wait to reload and charge him). but we fear guns as these unstoppable ungodly like magical devices.
now this brings me back to the issue of the banning of flag from government/public. now these leftist groups who have a victim mentality (the freeze group of the 3 f's flight, fight and freeze). now that the "monster" is in jail and we are safe we try to do something to take back control. so they started with banning the flag and now thinking of banning certain statues in whatever the building is called. because they had generals from the south but they want those banned. but fail to see the sheer hypocracy of that suggestion. because in those same halls there are statues of george washington, thomas jefferson en benjamin franklin. a those founding fathers are part of 12 presidents that owned slaves. why aren't they calling for those statues to be banned. exactly they wanna eradicate the southern culture.
those left and liberals are victims who want control but going about it in the wrong way.
but to me liberals act like the same cowards in isis controlled territories. and are destroying culture and art.
hope i made my point
DutchJazzer
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The funny part is those guys wanting to ban the flag are doing exaclty what that piss ant coward with a gun did.
they misunderstand that flag and see it as a racist symbol. so they are playing into his hands.
slave ships used to have the american flag.
the stars and stripes have as much to do with slavery and discrimination then the bars and stripes
they misunderstand that flag and see it as a racist symbol. so they are playing into his hands.
slave ships used to have the american flag.
the stars and stripes have as much to do with slavery and discrimination then the bars and stripes
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It is not guns. You can expect more of these tragedies in America because we have black on white crime creeping deeper into American society. We are so foolish we ignore increased rape and murder of whites by blacks because it would be racist for media or academia to discuss this thing. No instead they victim blame by telling raped women is because of white priveledge.
What you think will happen if whites feel threat by blacks increasing and society does nothing to protect and wont allow are police to enforce peace? The crazies will do crazy thing.
Europe does not have racial violence problem yet but if Muslim violence continue they will have mass murdering too.