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The “I’m a Mike Conley hating bitch” list

Lest anyone forget, getting Conley helped us get Bojan. I believe Conley will be good for us this year but if helping us get Bojan is his only contribution it still could be worth it.



https://www.abc4.com/news/mike-conley-and-bojan-bogdanovic-embrace-high-expectations/



https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/07/08/heres-what-mike-conley/

So suck it up and at least give it a little time, haters.

:)
With a guy who has a contract like he has, that's way too low of an expectation.
 
So Mike has never played with other talented wing players. Usually spot up shooters or non-offensive guys like Tony allen. I wonder if he is struggling between being too passive and just putting something up.

He does not look slow... he looks predictable though... like he's making his decision early to either shoot or pass. Couple times last night I could see the move he was going to do before he did it. I'm hoping with more reps with his new teammates he gets comfortable toggling between being the scoring and facilitating.
 
Was at last night's game and came away with the impression that Emmanuel Mudiay will be starting in the playoffs.

Can we just get Ricky back?
 
Conley is 9/45 FG (.200) and 3/30 3P (.150) with a 17/11 A/TO ratio (1.5) and 12 PF. So he has committed more fouls than made baskets. His PER is -0.6 (for comparison's sake, Palacio was 9.9, McLeod was 9.6), his ORtg is 67 (league average is 108-ish) and his DRtg is 95, for a NetRtg of -28 (that has to be the worst in the league by far), his WS/48 is - .130, and his plus/minus is -7.7. This truly has to be one of the worst 4-game stretches in Jazz history, if not league history. Jazz are lucky to be 3-1 with such a huge liability on the floor for 25.5 MPG. He needs to figure things out quickly. Crazy the Jazz gave up three 1st round draft choices (including Grayson) for what currently looks like a major contract liability (instead of Conley, I had hoped the Jazz could go after/acquire one of Holiday, Beverley, or Brogdon). I was worried Conley was grossly overpaid for what he could bring to the table, but I was worried only about a minor decline in productivity, not a complete collapse of skills.

When I suggested earlier he looks like a freshman playing against the varsity, that wasn't hyperbole. He still looks quick with a solid handle, but he dribbles himself into trouble with regularity, his off-balance floaters look like the 20% shots they are, he has made a number of highly-questionable passes, and he seems lost in the offense. WTF, Mike?

I remain hopeful Conley will figure things out, but with each passing game, I am more and more worried that we won’t be able to count on Conley to be a consistent contributor, particularly when we need him most. I'm also becoming increasingly concerned his ceiling may be much lower than we think.
 
As bad as these 4 games really have been, it’s hard to look at a guy averaging 20 ppg last year, and entire body of work, on a new team for the first time ever, and think that these four games are a better sample than anything the past couple years. If one is an anomaly between the past 4 games and the past 2-3 years, I know where I’d put my money.

Anyone remember concern over Bogdanovic in preseason? How’d that age?
 
He started slow last year too... not this slow... again, let's re-visit this in 20 games. If he isn't performing by then I'll be in full panic.
 
As bad as these 4 games really have been, it’s hard to look at a guy averaging 20 ppg last year, and entire body of work, on a new team for the first time ever, and think that these four games are a better sample than anything the past couple years. If one is an anomaly between the past 4 games and the past 2-3 years, I know where I’d put my money.

Anyone remember concern over Bogdanovic in preseason? How’d that age?

Mike's job is harder than Bogey's. Bojan did what I thought he needed to and just focused on scoring. Last night on one play when he was trying to balance creating and scoring he threw a pass to nowhere when he should have just shot... so as good as he's looked he's still figuring it out.

Mike will figure it out... I hoped he'd hit the ground running but it appears they have some stuff to iron out. My only worry is the mental part can build on itself. In the first game he just missed shots... they were rattling in and out, but they were close. Last night he was just throwing stuff up. So that part is concerning.
 
When the Jazz was going after Conley last year, Locke had all these stats saying that Conley is one of the most overrated guards in the league. I hope he wasn't right. I would gladly eat Crow if Conley turns things around, but he has a case of the Ipps and I don't know if he can get over it soon. I don't even think the legendary tank commander John Lucas III started out this bad.
 
His floor this year, in my view, is 14 and 5 on respectable numbers that space the floor. Even if he’s not last year’s Conley, what he’ll bring is valuable and important.
 
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