The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[Red]

A 'person believing they are above the law' and a 'threat to democracy' are not the same thing. You equating dissimilar concepts to connect points that don't belong on the same yarn board. Statistics, statistics, statistics. Trump may be a bad, bad man but the story you are pushing is fake.

Our president believing he is above the law, and acting as much, and “threats to democracy in America” are on the very same page. Trump was, and continues to be, a threat to democracy in America. The Big Lie, his creation, is itself a threat to our democracy. The damage it has wrought, is incalculable at the moment. It’s like a cancer, a cancer he planted, in our body politic, our elections. He already damaged our democracy with his lies. And he’s not done. He is not done. The story you are pushing is nonsense to me. He is a threat to our democracy, a threat to my country. It was obvious in 2015, and it still is. His lies have directly resulted in election deniers running for Secretary of State on the Republican ticket in several states. And THAT is itself a threat to democracy in America.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Trump was, and continues to be, a threat to democracy in America. ... It’s like a cancer, a cancer he planted,... He is a threat to our democracy, a threat to my country.

I see. There is a threat to our democracy because he exists and conversely the only way for there not to be a threat to our democracy is for someone to make him not exist. He is a cancer after all, and we all know cancer is deadly, so I guess everything is justified if we are to save ourselves, right?

The story you are pushing is nonsense to me.

I'm not pushing any story. I'm only pointing out the statistics don't corroborate this world you've created.

Not too long ago I wrote out a brief collection of moral beliefs which you said you couldn't argue with. Here it is again:

I am classically liberal. I support the free speech rights of neo-nazis even if I am disgusted by what they say and who they are. I support due process, search and seizure limitations, the presumption of innocence, and Miranda rights even for child molesters. I am opposed to capitol punishment even for serial killers. When it comes to individuals versus the government, even if that individual is Trump, I consistently stand with nerfing the government because the government is so powerful and I am not so naive as to believe that I could never possibly be in the government's crosshairs one day or that they never make mistakes.

I still believe them. You said you did but Trump. You've swallowed this hook so deep that you are willing to sell out everything you once believed to cling to 'but Trump'. You can vote and advocate for other people, but when you start dancing with the ideology of a thing you oppose being the same as cancer that needs to be cut away and eliminated for us to continue, then you may want to take a breath.

 

[One Brow]

... because he exists ...

Because so many people believe what he says.

... the only way for there not to be a threat to our democracy is for someone to make him not exist.

You can kill someone politically without ending their life. You're really bad at metaphors.

I'm not pushing any story. I'm only pointing out the statistics don't corroborate this world you've created.

Your use of statistics has been down to your usual standards.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Weird. I don’t understand why Oz is down double digits in the polls.


View: https://twitter.com/natalie_allison/status/1562164414652071936?s=21&t=TGjuWKZJ2sazlshBJGTljA

 

[Red]

Our president believing he is above the law, and acting as much, and “threats to democracy in America” are on the very same page. Trump was, and continues to be, a threat to democracy in America. The Big Lie, his creation, is itself a threat to our democracy. The damage it has wrought, is incalculable at the moment. It’s like a cancer, a cancer he planted, in our body politic, our elections. He already damaged our democracy with his lies. And he’s not done. He is not done. The story you are pushing is nonsense to me. He is a threat to our democracy, a threat to my country. It was obvious in 2015, and it still is. His lies have directly resulted in election deniers running for Secretary of State on the Republican ticket in several states. And THAT is itself a threat to democracy in America.

The experience of Rusty Bowers in Az., and the changes to the Republican Party in Az. support my position that MAGA and election deniers are a threat to our democracy. But, they can be defeated at the ballot box, and they’re really going to have to be soundly defeated everywhere. It’s a threat, but the electorate can reject these lies and attacks on our democracy.

Ousted Republican reflects on Trump, democracy and America: ‘The place has lost its mind’

Rusty Bowers stood up to the former president’s demand that he overturn Arizona’s election result. He paid the price but has no regrets

www.theguardian.com

Well, maybe it’s just a temporary dumbing down of our democracy…..

Trump’s Legacy Is Convincing Idiots to Run for Office

I get the appeal of having “outsiders” come in and “shake up the system.” But MAGA candidates are proving the folly of the know-nothing candidate.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Deleted member 365]

More legislation that helps people? What’s this???

Why hasn’t the president gotten into a fight with an Asian American reporter yet? Why hadn’t he yelled at a black person yet?

Why hasn’t he called Nazis very fine people?

Why hasn’t he been caught paying off porn stars while his wife is recovering from giving birth?

Why is he doing crap like passing legislation to address problems like climate change and student loan debt? What is this??? Is this what governing and not merely trolling is like?

I hope voters take this into consideration this fall. One party seeks to solve problems while the other seeks to troll, attack institutions, and wage weird culture wars.

Live updates: Biden announces student loan forgiveness plan

President Biden announced his plan Wednesday to forgive the student loan debt of some borrowers. Follow here for the latest live news updates and reactions.

www.cnn.com

I’m not tired from all of this winning!

 

[Red]

when you start dancing with the ideology of a thing you oppose being the same as cancer that needs to be cut away and eliminated for us to continue, then you may want to take a breath.

Not at all. It’s spot on. Wake up.

 

[Gameface]

Not at all. It’s spot on. Wake up.

Me: I hate fascism!
AI: Why do you hate something just because you disagree with it?
Me: WWII, we were supposed to have learned lessons that were never forgotten. Some of us seem to have forgotten the lessons.
AI: OMG stop being so ridiculously dramatic.
Me:

As soon as the fascists stop being so ridiculously dramatic, violent, unhinged, traitorous, lunatic, cultists I'll start thinking about how ridiculous I'm being.

Until then, I hate fascists!

 

[Deleted member 365]

Me: I hate fascism!
AI: Why do you hates something just because you disagree with it?
Me: WWII, we were supposed to have learned lessons that were never forgotten. Some of us seem to have forgotten the lessons.
AI: OMG stop being so ridiculously dramatic.
Me:

As soon as the fascists stop being so ridiculously dramatic, violent, unhinged, traitorous, lunatic, cultists I'll start thinking about how ridiculous I'm being.

Until then, I hate fascists!

And then he’ll claim that he’s not pro fascist but will claim that because you have taken that position (to be against fascism) then he must become pro fascist. It’s blaming the abused for the abuser’s abuse.

It’s like all the Trumpers recently who claimed that because of the FBI’s raid, they now can’t wait to abuse the FBI once they get into power. You made me hit you (as I’m hitting you and have enjoyed hitting you for years)

 

[fishonjazz]

Me: I hate fascism!
AI: Why do you hates something just because you disagree with it?
Me: WWII, we were supposed to have learned lessons that were never forgotten. Some of us seem to have forgotten the lessons.
AI: OMG stop being so ridiculously dramatic.
Me:

As soon as the fascists stop being so ridiculously dramatic, violent, unhinged, traitorous, lunatic, cultists I'll start thinking about how ridiculous I'm being.

Until then, I hate fascists!

Those pictures are just insane. I cant understand how so many idiots and traitors are cool with what happened. Well I guess its because they are idiotic traitors?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Those pictures are just insane. I cant understand how so many idiots and traitors are cool with what happened. Well I guess its because they are idiotic traitors?

Tribalism.

“The blacks, Jews, immigrants, and the left” are worse.

Pride.

People will hate the friend that told them that they were being ripped off before they’ll turn on the swindler who was ripping them off.

Propaganda.

It works!

 

[Al-O-Meter]

As soon as the fascists stop being so ridiculously dramatic, violent, unhinged, traitorous, lunatic, cultists I'll start thinking about how ridiculous I'm being.

Until then, I hate fascists!

...And the fascists who are being so this, that, and the other that you feels justifies your hatred, are they whoever you define them to be at the moment? I don't feel like you are referring to our WWII opponents and there aren't any major groups in the US now who call themselves fascists, soo......

You do you, but try not to hurt anybody, Okay, champ?