The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[Al-O-Meter]

You skipped entirely the part of my post asking for the evidence this is addressing any known problem and how it will solve that problem.

I skipped it because it isn't interesting. It isn't my bill or a thing I have championed. I also don't live in Florida. Generally speaking I like control of things such as curriculum to be as local as possible even when that works against my own personal values.

 

[One Brow]

Florida did the political stunt which made it harder for sexual predators to groom kids in K-3.

As I mentioned, the Florida bill (now law, IIRC) makes it easier for child molesters by encouraging secrecy. Are there some other predators you are concerned with?

... harder to groom kids...

I think the Daily Cartoonist has it right:

CSotD: Lovers, haters and groomers

Mykolas Lukosevicius wasted no time commenting on Macron’s victory in yesterday’s French elections, the caption reading, “So, happy?” Liberty looks anything but, and little wonder after the campaign she’s just endured. She chose the lesser of two evils, and Mykolas offers a bit of a visual joke...

www.dailycartoonist.com

“Groomer” is the new term for “N*****-Lover.”

What is worse is that Disney has implied the LGBTQ community ARE sexual predators by citing them as their reason to oppose this anti-sexual predator bill.

It's a pro-sexual-predator bill, by trying to eliminate discussion of molestation, among other things.

Here's the line from the preamble showing the goals of "Don't say gay":

prohibiting classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels or in a specified manner;

Show me any actual provision in the law that prevents child predators from operating. I'll wait. Keep in mind, over half the molesters of young children are family members, and this law is almost entirely about giving parent more control over what the schools can talk to young kids about. It's a child molester's dream bill.

Do you think ... I don't.

Do I think any of the things you listed accurately reflect the bill? I don't.

I think the current political climate where anything the Republicans do must be forcefully opposed by the Democrats

I'm sure you acknowledge the numerous bipartisan things that occur, and the occasional reflexive opposition of Republicans to Democratic proposals.0

As for the law striking down Disney's special carve out, I think that too is a stunt and won't stand. I predict Disney will take it to court and it will get struck down on First Amendment grounds as a retaliation for Disney exercising its constitutionally protected freedom of speech.

Possibly, although they wrote the law to affect any such district established after 1967 (are there others?), and Disney has no right to have such a district.

 

[One Brow]

It is an anti-sexual predator legislation.

It is very helpful legislation for child molesters.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

“Groomer” is the new term for “N*****-Lover.”

I see. So you think loving ethnically African people is equivalent to molesting children. Comments like this are what I refer to when I wondered what Democrats would do if DeSantis demanded that no one should jump off cliffs to their deaths.

 

[Gameface]

I see. So you think loving ethnically African people is equivalent to molesting children. Comments like this are what I refer to when I wondered what Democrats would do if DeSantis demanded that no one should jump off cliffs to their deaths.

This is completely intellectually dishonest.

 

[One Brow]

I see. So you think loving ethnically African people is equivalent to molesting children.

I think you're not nearly as stupid as this comment sounds. No one use n******-lover as a compliment, or even a plain description. The people who did use it seemed to consider it to be almost as bad a child molestation.

Comments like this are what I refer to when I wondered what Democrats would do if DeSantis demanded that no one should jump off cliffs to their deaths.

Comments like yours make me wonder what I would do if you actually responded to the principal point of my post, which is that the Florida law enables child molesters, especially if they are parents/guardians. Nothing to rebut that? Did you find one sentence in the law itself that makes it easier to find or prosecute molesters? Because I saw several that makes it easier for them to hide.

 

[Bucknutz]

I think you're not nearly as stupid as this comment sounds. No one use n******-lover as a compliment, or even a plain description. The people who did use it seemed to consider it to be almost as bad a child molestation.


Comments like yours make me wonder what I would do if you actually responded to the principal point of my post, which is that the Florida law enables child molesters, especially if they are parents/guardians. Nothing to rebut that? Did you find one sentence in the law itself that makes it easier to find or prosecute molesters? Because I saw several that makes it easier for them to hide.

Where in the bill does it enable child molesters?

 

[Gameface]

Where in the bill does it enable child molesters?

I'm curious.

Do you know the method by which OB suggested it enabled/protected child molesters, specifically ones directly related to the child? I'm not asking if he's right or if he's wrong. I'm asking if you know what it was about the bill that he suggested protected them?

 

[Bucknutz]

I'm curious.

Do you know the method by which OB suggested it enabled/protected child molesters, specifically ones directly related to the child? I'm not asking if he's right or if he's wrong. I'm asking if you know what it was about the bill that he suggested protected them?

I don’t. That’s why I asked him. I live in Tampa, so I have been following it pretty closely and no one has brought up the point of enabling child molesters.

I wanting to see what he is reading that explained to him this point.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Comments like yours make me wonder what I would do if you actually responded to the principal point of my post, which is that the Florida law enables child molesters, especially if they are parents/guardians. Nothing to rebut that? Did you find one sentence in the law itself that makes it easier to find or prosecute molesters? Because I saw several that makes it easier for them to hide.

I have no interest in your obvious straw man. The legislation doesn't prohibit everything related in any way to sex or gender. It establishes the Florida State Board of Education as the arbiter of what is approved content and forbids teachers, schools, or local school boards from going beyond what has been set as age or developmentally appropriate by the state. Everything coming from your keyboard in this thread is nonsense easily falsified by the text of the law but I've known you long enough to know that you'll never admit it so there is no point in debating your idiotic take.

Yes there is still age appropriate content in Florida. Yes there are still school councilors and social workers in Florida. Yes teachers are still mandatory reporters in Florida.

 

[Gameface]

I don’t. That’s why I asked him. I live in Tampa, so I have been following it pretty closely and no one has brought up the point of enabling child molesters.

I wanting to see what he is reading that explained to him this point.

Post #1814.

He says that it prohibits what school workers can ask children about sexual issues, like if they are being molested. Those are not his exact words, but it's in post #1814. The bill promotes secrecy about sex which would be desirable by any molester in the child's household because now the school can't investigate these issues by asking the child the questions they would need in order to uncover such activity.

 

[Bucknutz]

Post #1814.

He says that it prohibits what school workers can ask children about sexual issues, like if they are being molested. Those are not his exact words, but it's in post #1814. The bill promotes secrecy about sex which would be desirable by any molester in the child's household because now the school can't investigate these issues by asking the child the questions they would need in order to uncover such activity.

Where in the bill does it stop a child from talking to someone about being molested?