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I’ll take this over defunding FEMA to build some crappy fence, or yelling at an Asian American reporter, or praising “my people” for smearing feces all over Pelosi’s office. Isn’t it nice to have a government that helps people?
 
Bucknutz said:
Criteria - flooding. From you article that you posted:
"Meanwhile, Orange county, a Democratic-leaning area which experienced historic flooding from the storm, received no voting exceptions, reported the Washington Post."

3 counties I posted about first
Seminole County - 467,000 people
Lake County - 384,000 people
Volusia County - 554,000 people
3 County Total - 1,405,000 people

3 other counties I posted about
Desoto County - 34,000 people
Hardee County - 25,000 people
Highlands County - 101,000 people
3 County Total - 160,000

6 County Total - 1,565,000

@The Thriller do you consider these counties sparsely populated? You have a case of 2 of the 6.

Orange County - 1,430,000 people

1. Lee County - 761,000 people
2. Charlotte County - 187,000 people
3. Sarasota County - 434,000 people
Total Population - 1,382,000 people

If you do the math right 1,565,000 > 761,000

I think you are a bit off here.


Orange County - 1,430,000 people

Republican Counties - 2,947,000 people

Once again, I think you are off here.

Please make "Combined" font even bolder and larger, for more dramatic effect.


This is why I attach facts to my posts. You post garbage to scare people because you know they will not look up the details. This is why you have no depth. If you just did a bit of research, you would know exactly why Orange County would not fall under this executive order. Its for the same reasons the other 6 republican counties that had major flooding did not fall under it as well.

Lets take a look at Orange County during Ian (Category 1 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - October 4th - 1 school had partial flooding a reopened on Oct 6th. - https://www.wftv.com/news/local/cen...ter-hurricane-ian/4MYSZGO2LBF3LO35QPAIA6MF7A/

Disney World - Reopened 2 days later - https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/09/29/disney-world-reopen-hurricane-ian/

Power - 99% restored by October 2 - https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/t...e-ian-heres-what-florida-power-and-light-says

Lets look at Lee County (Category 4 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - 62% of schools by next week will be reopened - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...chools-start-reopening-next-week/10490725002/

Tourism - Parks, Beaches and Boat ramps all closed - https://www.fortmyersbeachtalk.com/...offices-some-sites-reopen-post-hurricane-ian/

Power - 91% by October 7th - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...es-cape-coral-sanibel-pine-island/8233569001/


So if you were being honest, you can see Lee and Orange were hit differently. If you were being honest you would say that this executive order served the people who were hit the hardest. Its not about politics.

If you really want to see Orange County compared to Lee County, come on down. We could use your help. We will be going down to Lee almost every weekend to help clear trees, tarping roofs and cleaning up debris.

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Everyone's missing the bigger point: why not just make a state-wide executive order to make it easier to vote? Why pick individual counties in the first place? As you pointed out, many places were hit with historic damage, in some form, so why not just make it state-wide? If it's ok for some to have easier access to voting why is it bad for everyone else? It kind of flies in the face of everything the Republicans have been screaming about this whole time. As long as something happens somewhere that makes it ok for us to think there won't be voter fraud then there will be voter fraud? It's stupid in the extreme and just makes it look even more partisan. We can trust these guys with looser voting laws but we can't trust those guys, because damage is worse than flooding so obviously they won't voter fraud anyone, but we still can't trust you mother****ers no matter how much water was in your house. So ****ing stupid. DeSantis basically saying we have no problem with making it easier to vote as long as we decide who gets it. Which tacitly admits there really isn't an issue with it. Dumb dumb dumb.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Everyone's missing the bigger point: why not just make a state-wide executive order to make it easier to vote? Why pick individual counties in the first place? As you pointed out, many places were hit with historic damage, in some form, so why not just make it state-wide? If it's ok for some to have easier access to voting why is it bad for everyone else? It kind of flies in the face of everything the Republicans have been screaming about this whole time. As long as something happens somewhere that makes it ok for us to think there won't be voter fraud then there will be voter fraud? It's stupid in the extreme and just makes it look even more partisan. We can trust these guys with looser voting laws but we can't trust those guys, because damage is worse than flooding so obviously they won't voter fraud anyone, but we still can't trust you mother****ers no matter how much water was in your house. So ****ing stupid. DeSantis basically saying we have no problem with making it easier to vote as long as we decide who gets it. Which tacitly admits there really isn't an issue with it. Dumb dumb dumb.
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Because when turnout goes up the chances for Republicans to win goes down. This has been the same thinking for over 40 years even though I don’t think it necessarily plays out that way anymore. Especially in a state like Florida with so many Cuban Americans. But it’s hard to break free of such anti-democratic thinking because it’s been baked into the GOP mindset for so long.

Plus, the cruelty is the point. Democrats want to make voting easier so automatically, reflexively, Republicans will be against it. At this point, Biden could find a cure for cancer and Republicans would be against it. And we’ve seen throughout DeSantis’s career that he prioritizes hurting people while serving his base red meat over actually solving problems or helping anything.

  • Trash talk on Fox News. As long as you keep pumping out the propaganda, your base won’t know anything else.
  • Enrich yourself and your richest donors. Stack the courts and government positions with toadies. Make it harder for your opponents to vote and have representation so you maintain power easier.
  • Use government to crush perceived political opponents. Ownthelibs with cruelty and bigotry to keep the base energized and engaged.
That’s governing Republican style in this century.
 
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The Thriller said:
LOL

You realize that the five Republican counties that you randomly selected/marked (what was the criteria for that again?) that weren't included in the executive order are sparsely populated?
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The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.
 
One Brow said:
The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.
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See my previous point where it just proves they can loosen these laws for some, then why not for all. Maybe selecting the exact counties wasn't specifically partisan but limiting it in the first place sure as hell was.
 
LogGrad98 said:
See my previous point where it just proves they can loosen these laws for some, then why not for all. Maybe selecting the exact counties wasn't specifically partisan but limiting it in the first place sure as hell was.
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Seems like opening themselves up to a lawsuit by having different rules for different voters. I agree that if they're going to do it they should probably just do it state-wide.
 
Gameface said:
Seems like opening themselves up to a lawsuit by having different rules for different voters. I agree that if they're going to do it they should probably just do it state-wide.
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Yes, and then why not nationwide? There is no good answer for that other than the thoroughly debunked complete and utter ******** specter of "voter fraud".

My eyes rolled so hard they spun around like a slot machine right there.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yes, and then why not nationwide? There is no good answer for that other than the thoroughly debunked complete and utter ******** specter of "voter fraud".

My eyes rolled so hard they spun around like a slot machine right there.
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A decent amount of Americans believe in that voter fraud garbage. Here’s the Republican today running for Gov in AZ. She’s beating the Democrat. She’s most likely to be the next Gov of not some ******** state with more cows than people. She’s probably going to be gov of a key swing state with millions of people, Arizona.


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View: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1581639837219553282?s=46&t=oDvZgHx_BMLhTjoMzBb2Fw
 
One Brow said:
The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.
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I’m open to that. But it sure looks suspicious and the article I read sure gave us plenty of reason to suspect some foul play. And we have to admit, it would surprise no one if DeSantis were playing politics by exploiting the suffering from the hurricane.
 
The Thriller said:
I’m open to that. But it sure looks suspicious and the article I read sure gave us plenty of reason to suspect some foul play. And we have to admit, it would surprise no one if DeSantis were playing politics by exploiting the suffering from the hurricane.
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I always encourage skepticism. However, that does require changing your mind with new evidence. Even if you think a poster is wrong 99% of the time (no recent poster in this thread), hen they bring the data, you need tio check the data and apply some common sense.
 
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