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The Caravan

I'm sure by now most of you here have seen the tragic news of the antisemite who shot up a synagogue in Pittsburgh today killing at least 10 people.

What you may not have seen is that he had been posting on his Gab account in recent days about how this caravan of immigrants is a Jewish plot funded by George Soros to invade our country.

There is something seriously wrong in our society and the rot stretches from the highest levels of government to the darkest corners of the internet. We can not continue like this.
 
The fact that you aren't aware that anyone is doing this with regard to Trump blows my mind.

No, Joe. I was not aware that anyone here, on this forum, was basically saying Trump=Hitler. Maybe I missed just such an equivalency. That's possible, I suppose, but that's what I was referring to. It was not my intention to blow your mind. I imagine there exists, in our society in general, people who would simply make that call. But I draw the comparison in the manner in which I described. I mean look, we are talking about two entirely different historical personages. It's not as if anyone is saying Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler. Anyway, I appreciate that you do understand the manner in which I am willing to compare 1930's Germany with early 21st century America.

Also, please note that I posted a link to the situation in Brazil. The cultural war ripping that nation apart appears to be quite similar to the culture wars in the United States. I find that fact fascinating, and it does take us away from the comparisons between our nation and Germany of 100 years ago, and instead allows us to examine and note the rise of right wing authoritarianism in our own era. To me, it illustrates that Trump is part of a crisis that is affecting democratic nations in general.

I believe both comparisons, both observations, are useful in understanding the emergence of Trump at this time. On the one hand, the lesson contained in the observation that history does not repeat, but it rhymes. And the observation that the rise of right wing authoritarianism is not confined to the United States. Both observations are helpful in understanding Trumpism. Or so I believe. Mine is not the only point of view, but I will always think my point of view through. I don't settle for half *** sloppy, I hold myself to a standard.

I believe it should also be pointed out that Brazil is a very young democracy. America is much older, relatively that is, a nation that only dates from 1789 is not really all that "old", but in general the age of nation states is not that old. At any rate, we have an advantage, hopefully, of being more resilient to forces that may erode or endanger democratic institutions. Time will tell. But, that Trump represents a danger to our democratic institutions is something that has concerned me virtually from the very day he descended the escalator in Trump Tower and announced his candidacy for our highest office. I will admit that it has been a frustrating experience to me that not everyone shared my sense of alarm.

Edit: I háve posted this before, recently, and probably in the main Trump thread. A discussion by America's leading scholar on the Holocaust regarding comparing 1930's Germany and early 21st century America. I respect the man, and I will not blow off his observations. He is thoughtful about this. I like to think I am as well:

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/
 
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Oh Jesus. Just read that some militia groups are putting people on the border to stop this caravan. One group plans to have 100 armed men there.

Smfh
 
It's naive to think that those who complain online take meaningful action.

Well, speaking out online, and attempting to educate others as to one's own point of view, is itself a form of activism. In fact, it's a new form. Social media was not available decades ago. I was completely enveloped in the anti-war activism of the Vietnam era. It is true that, in general, we have not seen, today, that level of "in the street" activism of the mid to late 60's, and early 70's. There is a difference. It most definetly interests me, as I have felt the level of divisiveness today actually exceeds that of the Vietnam and Civil Rights era. I may be mistaken. That was a lifetime ago, and the issues then are not the same. But, time will tell. Certainly online activism, and I see it that way, not "online complaining", does not preclude activism in other venues. But, these days so many of us have become denizens of social media communities.
 
@Joe Bagadonuts on your Obama/Trump diety complex.

The first thought I had is that Obama and Trump are night and day as far as respectability and morality. I respected Pres. Obama. Even when I disliked his policies. I don’t respect or like Trump. Even when I agree with his polices.

The second thought I had is one following, Trumps, seems to be far more angry and aggressive than the other.

This.
 
I understand and agree with what you are saying in your first paragraph. I don't understand your second paragraph.

His second paragraph is saying that the supporters of trump seem to be far more angry and aggressive than the supporters of obama.
Makes sense cosidering the personality of the two presidents.
 
His second paragraph is saying that the supporters of trump seem to be far more angry and aggressive than the supporters of obama.
Makes sense cosidering the personality of the two presidents.
Trump is a hostile, angry person, so it's not suprising that people like him would support him.
 
What a week for domestic terrorism. I’m glad that we’re focusing so much on this caravan. Even sending the military there to do... something? It’s so weird to me that this caravan has gotten so much attention. It triggers so many. I think we have bigger issues to deal with. In particular, right wing terrorism. Trumpers, Nazis, etc. how many pipe bombs were sent through the mail by poor people in a caravan? How many synagogues were shot up by people seeking asylum?

We have problems that need to be addressed
I haven't been paying much attention to the "Caravan," but off the top, it smacks of "fake news" created by the Trump Administration. Anyone who has want to provide some details?
 
WhaaChoo tawkin bout willis?

1. I did respond to @Stoked. I buried the lead. But, I directly responded to his posted question.

2. Of course I used it to spout my ****amamie ideas, my platform, as you put it. This is the Jazzfanz general discussion board. Is that somehow inappropriate in your opinion? I got a little more long winded than I intended, but it was late and MAGA got me all riled up.

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I think it works if you type dickamamie.

Edit: yep
 
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