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Who is most indispensable?

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LogGrad98 said:
The real shtick is all of you clearing space on the mantle for the trophy since we added a 35 year old, Diaw and another point guard that might be beaten out by a kid that lost a season to injury. I get the drinking three Kool aid ******** and having some hope for the season but we are still far from being contenders. You guys sound more and more like a religion. Oh no someone has a dissenting opinion. Put your fingers in your ears and LA LA LA all you want. Everything is still prognostication. If anything it's the cultish mantra being "saved" that is the shtick. I think we will have a better season than last year but just because Chad Ford says nice things guarantees nothing. And in the end 4th place is just a higher class loser. Sorry you are so weak in your position that you feel the need to claim dishonesty when someone points this out.
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Did I say we were a contender? There's a lot of ground between contention and what you're saying. And, every program goes though a period between a rebuild and a championship, so I fail to see how getting amped for a 4th place finish and homecourt advantage in the playoffs is religious, credulous, or any other version of hotttnickkk
 
LogGrad98 said:
The real shtick is all of you clearing space on the mantle for the trophy since we added a 35 year old, Diaw and another point guard that might be beaten out by a kid that lost a season to injury. I get the drinking three Kool aid ******** and having some hope for the season but we are still far from being contenders. You guys sound more and more like a religion. Oh no someone has a dissenting opinion. Put your fingers in your ears and LA LA LA all you want. Everything is still prognostication. If anything it's the cultish mantra being "saved" that is the shtick. I think we will have a better season than last year but just because Chad Ford says nice things guarantees nothing. And in the end 4th place is just a higher class loser. Sorry you are so weak in your position that you feel the need to claim dishonesty when someone points this out.
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If I had this attitude, I would not be a fan of a certain NBA team. I would just watch whoever signed LeBron/KD/Steph/whatever current superstar.
 
Hayward and Favors by far. I too love Gobert. But he is quite over rated here IMHO. You put a heavier center on him and he becomes non existent. I wasn't impressed with his Olympic play either. Doesn't mean he isn't important. Cause he's easily 3rd behind Hayward and Favs.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
What kind of start to the season will make you drop your pessimism and come to the light side?
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I think I'm being pretty optimistic. I guessed us winning more games than last year maybe even into the high 40's. Might even have a shot at 50 if the stars are aligned. But realistically we are still no contenders and 6+ seasons of mediocrity has my cynicism level at an all time high. We will probably have a fun and enjoyable, and at times frustrating season to watch. But I want a trophy and I don't think anything we did realistically gets us any closer.

But thanks for the respectful question. That is a rare thing here. I think if we can hold a top 3 position in the west through Christmas I'll start to really get excited about the season. Otherwise I'll enjoy the exciting times when they happen and get the most out of the season that I can. Sadly it is highly unlikely that will include any kind of deep playoff run.

But as I have said before I will more than happily eat crow. I just feel bad that a lot of you overly optimistic ones will be the group eating crow.

I'm hoping the FO has some magic to pull off maybe surrounding Hayward and his imminent departure that can or some wind back in our sales.
 
Such a misrepresented argument. Both ways. Sounds like politicians.
 
Obviously every fan wants their team to win a championship.

No one is special because they really really want a championship for their team.
It's not like the NBA got all the front offices together and asked "who wants a championship really bad" and the Jazz FO didn't raise their hand because they prefer mediocrity.
It you can't support your team unless they're winning a championship then being a sports fan if going to be rough.
 
Burks...

If the Dude was healthy last year we'd have been 5th seed in the playoffs!!!
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think I'm being pretty optimistic. I guessed us winning more games than last year maybe even into the high 40's. Might even have a shot at 50 if the stars are aligned. But realistically we are still no contenders and 6+ seasons of mediocrity has my cynicism level at an all time high. We will probably have a fun and enjoyable, and at times frustrating season to watch. But I want a trophy and I don't think anything we did realistically gets us any closer.

But thanks for the respectful question. That is a rare thing here. I think if we can hold a top 3 position in the west through Christmas I'll start to really get excited about the season. Otherwise I'll enjoy the exciting times when they happen and get the most out of the season that I can. Sadly it is highly unlikely that will include any kind of deep playoff run.

But as I have said before I will more than happily eat crow. I just feel bad that a lot of you overly optimistic ones will be the group eating crow.

I'm hoping the FO has some magic to pull off maybe surrounding Hayward and his imminent departure that can or some wind back in our sales.
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Guess you're just bracing yourself for disappointment, Logo, but do you realize that an attitude like yours is exactly what all losers feel and why they end up losers. Having an overly optimistic attitude is something you need to be a winner and to overachieve, and I'm hoping that's exactly what happens, that all the stars align and we do better than expected.
 
Gameface said:
Obviously every fan wants their team to win a championship.

No one is special because they really really want a championship for their team.
It's not like the NBA got all the front offices together and asked "who wants a championship really bad" and the Jazz FO didn't raise their hand because they prefer mediocrity.
It you can't support your team unless they're winning a championship then being a sports fan if going to be rough.
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What is the point then? And if you don't think they choose mediocrity I would argue that some teams truly do. It is a business, we get that, but it's also something that can generate real emotions among the patrons. To really keep the fans they have to at least show they are making an effort to deliver what the patrons want. And in business risks often must be taken to get the real rewards. Playing it too safe may guarantee a reasonable bottom line, but it's highly unlikely to generate the results the fans want to see. I'd like to see more risks, frankly.

Also frankly I don't care about being special. I'm just expressing my opinion. I guess I'm learning what it must be like to be a Sacramento or clippers fan. We got spoiled with 20 years of greatness. I want us to get there again.
 
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