The Jazz FO told Corbin to develop a defensive identity...
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They do good work?
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Corbin gave them an over-the-hill vet identity instead.
This is more about Snyder, tbh.
Hotdog
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It's not that simple. You need the right pieces. Gobert is what makes us who we are. Especially since it replaced Kanter. Im not defending Corbin, but his team had Al Jefferson. It takes the right pieces to do what you want to. Quin is smart, but he's also lucky to have Gobert.
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I agree with Hack. Quin is working to get the most out of the players he has, and with Gobert, you have a great defensive piece to build around.
Is it luck or preparation to have the right people. Jazz traded to get him.
Hotdog
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I'm not going to give them too much credit on that. They were prepared to not pick him. They got lucky that someone let them back in the draft AND Gobert slipped. It was foolish to trade up for Trey Burke and basically burn your two first rounders on him.
I am giving them big credit for that. They made something happen and got Gobert. It is true that even they didn't expect this level of play.
But we all complain when they don't make moves well this time they did. Kudos to them.
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Hardly luck. You could see the difference in the Jazz at the beginning of last season, even though they weren't very good. Quin is molding this team.
It was. Rhetorical question. I agree it's not luck. Jazz put a lot of effort into building a team. But luck does play its role. As in they lucked out that Gobert was so good.
Because when you thought you finally stopped hearing Jazzfanz bring up Corbin, someones makes a Corbin thread.
Stifle Tower
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To be fair - and franklin will tell you I was one of Corbin's biggest critics - Lindsey didn't give Ty much to work with. Gobert was an extremely raw rookie who often looked totally lost. Favs has really come on the last 1+ years and Hayward is concentrating more on defense. It wasn't like Snyder came in and waved a magic wand, Utah was horrible last year on defense with Kanter as a starter. Gobert has been the cornerstone. And he just wasn't ready as a rookie to play more than 10-15 mins/per. Look at the roster Ty had: 5-6 NBA players and the rest scrubs or rookies.
Stifle Tower
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That's just not true. Biedrins played in SIX games for a total of 45 minutes. Gobert averaged 10 mins/per for 45 games. Not a lot, but Rudy looked like a lost puppy out there. The rotation at the 4/5 was Kanter, Favors, Marvin Williams and Evans. The only "vet" that saw significant time was Richard Jefferson. He should have been limited and more minutes given to Burks. In hindsight, Kanter should have also averaged 30+, Then again, the mandate was defense and Kanter was the worst defender. RJ wasn't very good, either. Ty was set up to fail.Had he been a better soldier, I think he could have kept his job. DL barely convinced Gail to let Ty go.
DutchJazzer
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vets have mythical defensive identity!
DutchJazzer
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but corbin sent message that defense does not matter al Jefferson minutes where guaranteed.
so we always hear about stock malone being held to same standard as everyone else on team.
well jefferson was not held to that standard,
the amount of mistakes or lack of defense you where allowed was a direct correlation on the years you played in nba.