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The Jazz have acquired the 13th pick and select Donovan Mitchell

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ok he's gone up a little bit in my book
 
Donovan Mitchell and Wade Baldwin seem somewhat similar but is Mitchell a better player and do more than Baldwin in his rookie year? I liked Wade Baldwin last year and Mitchell just seem very similar to him.
 
The Jazz did well in trading Trey Lyles 5 minutes before everyone realizes he isn't good.

I also hope the Jazz have learned their lesson and will no longer draft players named Trey.

Or be too cute with their selection. They should really just take the best player available. They basically took Trey because we were loaded with guards and lacked depth in the bigs department.



Also they seems to have put too much emphasis on the balancing test? Booker was clearly the BPA at that stage when Turner was taken. Sometimes just keeping it simple would have been the best solution.
 
Eh, I'm not sure Booker was clearly BPA. To this day Booker isn't much of a defender, he isn't a great creator off the dribble and he isn't terribly efficient offensively.

It's true the move to consolidate picks and move up in the draft is almost always the right move to make. The key is picking the right player when you get there. I really, really like Mitchell, but I also like John Collins who was also available. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us.
 
Eh, I'm not sure Booker was clearly BPA. To this day Booker isn't much of a defender, he isn't a great creator off the dribble and he isn't terribly efficient offensively.

It's true the move to consolidate picks and move up in the draft is almost always the right move to make. The key is picking the right player when you get there. I really, really like Mitchell, but I also like John Collins who was also available. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us.

According to this compilation draft, Devin Booker is a good 3 spots higher than Trey Lyles.


https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?41237-Colton-s-2015-Mock-Draft-Compilation-v-3-0-(last-version)


They Jazz would have had this info at the time. They're not stupid. They just tried to be too cute with Lyles and the balancing test, and maybe due to our logjam in the backcourt at the time as well.


Even PKM, who I dare say loves all UK alumni, was meh with the Lyles pick.
 
That's a 12 and a 24 pick turned into a 13.

I was cool with it for a minute cuz I thought that maybe we made the pick for someone else. Maybe this was part of a package. Now that it seems that it is not I'm super bummed.

I doubt we keep Hayward on the promise of a late lottery pick. Cuz they have turned out so great in the past.

You are looking at this all wrong. That 12 is Trey Lyles. A player that struggled big time last year. A player whose future is murky. Could he still improve? Sure. But it's just as possible that we saw his best play in his rookie year. He no longer holds the value of that number 12. His value has depreciated. We traded 24 and a player with depreciated value for another chance at a high upside prospect. We basically swung and missed the first time and DL found a way to give us another swing. It was a good trade.
 
Nope. Not everyone. I was cautiously optimistic his first year, but still extremely skeptical about him ever becoming a decent defender. I really hated that pick, and I'm usually supportive of the draft to a fault, because it's so much of a crap shoot. I hope Bradley doesn't fall into becoming the replacement for fans frustrations. Fans are going to expect a lot for the price we paid to move up 2 spots.

The majority of the board loved moving up to get Burke. I got some criticism for not being happy that we did. Was not a big fan of Burke, didn't see NBA speed and worried about his ability to defend. The worse part is a player has to be special to give up two first. Burke was not.

The price to move up to get Bradley was nothing. Giving up a mid second isn't a high price especially if the Jazz really wanted Bradley. Jazz fans like all fans seem to over value the draft. Maybe if people lowered their expectations and realized that all GMs screw up picks. Success in the league is determined by the player and what team drafts him to some extent.

In the end as a fan I hope we hit two home runs but fans are going to be disappointed if they start anointing Bradley the next Tim Duncan and Mitchell the next Dwayne Wade. I see positives in both picks but I will give the guys at least to the end of their rookie contracts before I bash them for being bad picks.

I can already hear the pros/con comments after the first summer league game.... DL should have.. or Mitchell is going to be a star...Draft is unpredictable and everyone on this board has made a bad pick. Just remember Kanter at 3 and Gobert at 27, you never know.
 
I was pleasantly surprised with this trade. I thought it was great that the DL was focused on improving. He made some great magic happen in the final minutes of the picks. Great way to start the off-season.
 
If memory serves me... Wasn't Russell Westbrook also a 6'3" explosive athletic freak who needed to hone his PG skills and shooting at the NBA level?

Just stoking the fire
 
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