Needs to retireMan, I love Hubie Brown. One of the best ever. But, everything has a season. Time to give it up. I don't want to remember him this way.
Willingness to defendMake a note: Length + Athleticism + Making 3s + Being able to drive
The biggest indictment of Hardy and his stupidity. There is no reason he shouldn't have been a long term piece for us other than his pure stupidity. The guy is the ultimate glue guy and was our best perimeter defender.NAW is soooo good.
It’s relevant for this convo. Why didn’t they pony up the meh bounty for Pascal? Why did Indiana do it?Why is any team not more talented? lol. What kind of question is that.
Sabonis stops them from getting another non shooter....ok. Sabonis is providing an immense amount of value as a non shooter. The guys around Fox and Sabonis aren't exactly the cream of the crop, and yet that group was still able to produce an elite offense in large part because Sabonis is so good. Even when the other guys were playing better, it would be hard to look at that team and say...."wow that's a surefire playoff team". And don't act like playing Keon Ellis was some kind of sacrifice they had to make. He's took the minutes of Terrance Davis, who isn't an NBA player, and Davion Mitchell who sucks. Keon has played great and would fit in any team's rotation.
It absolutely is if they want to be elite and take the next step. You are also downplaying their talent. This isn’t the Pistons. They can definitely get more with this iteration by making some moves but those moves require good shooters who are also good defenders. If those are perimeter defenders you likely need them to be ELITE or you’ll need a couple of em. Turners rim protection is questionable but they had some good teams when Turner could play even though their perimeter talent was bad.This team has no business being a playoff team in the first place, they get way more out of their talent then other teams. Putting Sabonis with a rim protector who can shoot isn't exactly the secret either. We literally saw that in IND. We can agree to disagree, but as far as reaching their goals/avoid disappointment (which IMO is just to be a consistent playoff team).....Sabonis being hard to fit around is clearly not the issue in my eyes.
Whispers… that’s why some of us are a little hesitant to go trade for him.Oh ****
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And did you see the play he did it on? Amazing play.Whispers… that’s why some of us are a little hesitant to go trade for him.
I mean I’d do it depending on price but you’d always be worried this was going to happen. It’s so frustrating
He’s an amazing player. Would love to see him get a playoff run in without something weird happening. Looks like he is playing through whatever it is. So hopefully it was just an awkward fall.And did you see the play he did it on? Amazing play.
It’s relevant for this convo. Why didn’t they pony up the meh bounty for Pascal? Why did Indiana do it?
They were a mid offense this year elite last year. Part of that was playing Ellis imo and part of that was guys got hurt or weren’t as good shooting this year. Sabonis gives them elite offense with Fox when they have shooters around them.
It absolutely is if they want to be elite and take the next step. You are also downplaying their talent. This isn’t the Pistons. They can definitely get more with this iteration by making some moves but those moves require good shooters who are also good defenders. If those are perimeter defenders you likely need them to be ELITE or you’ll need a couple of em. Turners rim protection is questionable but they had some good teams when Turner could play even though their perimeter talent was bad.
They can be a better version of this squad but if Sabonis is ever on a true contender it will be because he has a rim protector with some stretch to him. That’s okay… very few guys are super talented and fit perfectly on all contenders.