The Official 2014/15 Tank Watch thread
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So a relatively tough schedule. We've had a pretty good run post the All Star break. I wouldn't mind it if we have some hard fought tough losses to end the season. Gives us a #9 pick AND makes our guys hungry & work hard during the offseason to improve.
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So a relatively tough schedule. We've had a pretty good run post the All Star break. I wouldn't mind it if we have some hard fought tough losses to end the season. Gives us a #9 pick AND makes our guys hungry & work hard during the offseason to improve.
Who's to say that Hayward would have been drafted at 9 if the Jazz didn't pick him there? IIRC most people thought the Jazz picked him a bit too high.
I've heard the Pacers were gonna pick him if we hadn't done so.
I won't be upset if our draf tpick improves. But the jazz are going for wins and I am cheering for wins. No longer hoping they loss like I did last year.
freakazoid
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Ifs and buts. All we know is what actually happened, and Hayward and George were both available at #9 but not #12. HUGE difference between those players and who was drafted at #12. Besides that, I've already acknowledged that it doesn't mean the difference between #9 and #12 doesn't vary from draft to draft. Framer could very well be right that in this draft it won't be a big deal, but he's stating it as if it's a foregone conclusion, which it isn't.
Go Suns!!!!!
LOL ... GSW couldn't lose even if they wanted to.
freakazoid
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Which is weird because tanking causes a losing culture that lasts forever just like vampires.
Hahaha... right on the money.
UGLI baby
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I've been one of the biggest pro-tanking dudes on the forum the last couple years.
Once you have momentum like the Jazz do now, you don't freaking tank the last ten games to maybe move up a couple draft spots in the late lottery. Like, seriously bros. This is nothing like the Corbin years or any other time we were rooting for tanking, and it's nothing like when the Warriors tanked to keep a pick that they would lose outright (what they did was still disgusting btw. Worst tanking of all time probably).
I'm rooting for wins here on out, and don't think I will be hoping for the Jazz to lose a basketball game in a long long time. If we happen to lose a lot down the stretch and get a better pick because of it, sweet, but I'm definitely hoping for wins.
Once you have momentum like the Jazz do now, you don't freaking tank the last ten games to maybe move up a couple draft spots in the late lottery. Like, seriously bros. This is nothing like the Corbin years or any other time we were rooting for tanking, and it's nothing like when the Warriors tanked to keep a pick that they would lose outright (what they did was still disgusting btw. Worst tanking of all time probably).
I'm rooting for wins here on out, and don't think I will be hoping for the Jazz to lose a basketball game in a long long time. If we happen to lose a lot down the stretch and get a better pick because of it, sweet, but I'm definitely hoping for wins.
freakazoid
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No. If ever there's a legit reason to tank, it's when your team is bad anyway and about to lose a high draft pick by a few spots. Warriors made a smart move to keep their pick. If anything, they almost screwed the pooch by letting that pick go to a coin toss. Losing that pick by a few spots would have been terrible management. Warriors management did a fantastic job building that team, and tanking to keep their pick was part of that smart management, regardless of how Barnes has developed.
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As for the rest of your post, I agree somewhat as far as riding the momentum, but in the big picture 3 or 4 losses at the end of the season just isn't going to make much impact on where this team will be next year. Hitting on this last high draft pick is much more likely to have a significant impact on the team than a few extra wins at the end of the season. Remember the 4 losses to the Spurs that were so crucial to our future success?
If I'm to believe the claims made on this board, then 4 losses in the playoffs = extremely valuable development, but 4 losses at the end of regular season will ruin everything. Seems a bit flip-floppy, tbh.
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Having said all that, I'm fine with how Utah is managing the team this year, even if we win out the rest of our games. The only thing I might criticize is if Gordon is playing hurt right now, because that would be stupid. I have no problem rooting for wins( I have been, especially against certain teams), but I refuse to pretend our draft pick is worth less than a few more wins, and it could be worth a whole hell of a lot more, with some luck.
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