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The Official 2014/15 Tank Watch thread

ONE LOVE said:
Sorry for being negative about this, but we really need to lose this one vs DEN.
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Starting to look like it might not be in the cards. On the bright side, it's kind of a nice problem to have that we can't even lose by sitting one of our best players. Probably need to sit 2 out of our big 3 in order to tank effectively, and I don't think Utah is willing to do that when they are healthy. It's definitely going to suck if we miss the next piece to the puzzle by one or two spots, which looks a good possibility in this draft, considering our current position.
 
freakazoid said:
Starting to look like it might not be in the cards. On the bright side, it's kind of a nice problem to have that we can't even lose by sitting one of our best players. Probably need to sit 2 out of our big 3 in order to tank effectively, and I don't think Utah is willing to do that when they are healthy. It's definitely going to suck if we miss the next piece to the puzzle by one or two spots, which looks a good possibility in this draft, considering our current position.
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Realistically, an irreplaceable "piece of the puzzle" isn't going to be available at 9 or 10 in this draft anyway. I'd be surprised if the pick isn't traded for a grown up player at this point.
 
The difference between 9 and 12 doesn't seem like much but it is. Rationally we should lose this game, but when the game starts I just want us to curb stomp fools.

It would have to be a good vet on a good contract for me to want to trade the pick. If we trade the pick it will be to move up the draft. Getting decent production from cheap contracts will be huge especially since these contracts won't scale up with the new cap. If we get decent bench production out of this pick it will be a big asset to us going forward. It would be short sighted to trade the pick IMO.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The difference between 9 and 12 doesn't seem like much but it is..
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This. Drafting Xavier Mchenry at 12 with Hayward and George going 9/10 probably didn't seem like a big deal at the time, either. Obviously nobody can say for sure if this draft will be a similar situation, but I believe there'll be a significant drop off at about 10, depending on who falls.
 
freakazoid said:
This. Drafting Xavier Mchenry at 12 with Hayward and George going 9/10 probably didn't seem like a big deal at the time, either. Obviously nobody can say for sure if this draft will be a similar situation, but I believe there'll be a significant drop off at about 10, depending on who falls.
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I think the tiers will be:

Tier 1
Towns
Okafor
Russel

Tier 2
Mudiay
Winslow
WCS

Tier 3
Hezonja
Johnson
Porzingis

Tier 4
Frank the Tank

Then whatever... not a big fan of Oubre (although i get why people are) Looney (don't get it at all) or Turner (I liked him earlier in the year when he was hitting 3s, but at the end of the year his shot looked as ugly as his run).
 
Dropping to #9 would be huge for us.

Russell
Towns
Mudiay
Okafor
Hezonja
Winslow
Johnson
WCS
(In that order)

I really think it's essential for us to get 1 of those guys, especially 1 of Hezonja/Winslow/Johnson. Drafting at #9 at least gives us a chance to get one of them without having to give up any assets, especially because there are a few prospects (Porzingis, Kaminsky, Oubre, Looney, Dunn, etc) who could go ahead of a guy or 2 in that group. I guess we could package #12 with another asset to move up a few spots to get whoever remains out of that list around #8-10, but I'd rather have the asset than a few meaningless wins (not that any win is actually meaningless, but you know what I mean).

Either way, we are in a great position moving forward. Not being able to lose is a great problem to have, I'd just hate to see us end up with a future rotational player rather than a potential starter just because we will likely be drafting outside of the lottery for the foreseeable future.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Sorry for being negative about this, but we really need to lose this one vs DEN.
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I'm done rooting for losses. That ship has sailed.

Go Jazz!!!

Move out of the way or I'll run you over with this bandwagon!! Woot woot!!
 
Stoked said:
I'm done rooting for losses. That ship has sailed.

Go Jazz!!!

Move out of the way or I'll run you over with this bandwagon!! Woot woot!!
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You're being emotional and irrational right now... why don't you take 5, have a cuppa and then we can talk?
 
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