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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Red said:
No, they're not. I call them misguided, and I will be there for them when they come to their senses. It's supporters like you that I would consider a traitor. Not all Trump supporters are traitors to my country. Those who said to me, in some of these Trump threads over the past few years, in so many words, "who gives a **** if Russia interfered in our election?", those fall into the category of traitors. I said so at the time, and I have not changed my tune.
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Well you obviously don't. I'm all for figuring out why Obama allowed Russia to interfere with our elections. Your quick to blame Trump for something that has been happening long before Trump. So spare me. You really don't care that Russia meddled UNDER OUR LAST ADMINISTRATION.
 
Red said:
No, they're not..
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So you also agree it's an outlandish comment? My Trump friends aren't traitors, I'm just glad I have the audacity to stick up against such a stupid claim. My Democrats friends, even my alt left one or two aren't traitors either.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I mean what part of "I agree with silesian" is hard to understand?
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I do largely agree, but I just don't put 100% of Trump supporters in the category of traitors. Some no doubt are, some are in need of some serious education. And many simply don't understand how they have allowed a cynical demagogue to manipulate their fears, anger, and frustrations at the social and cultural war changes taking place in American society. I stated back in July of 2016 who Trump was, a demagogue, what the techniques of demagogues are, and how he would utilize the instincts of a demagogue to fool a large segment of the population. And I was 100% correct, because that is exactly what happened.

I thought the most succinct portion of @silesian's comment was we are living in the WTF era of American society. Got a good laugh out of that, in the sense that gallows humor can be funny at times and serve as a comic release valve.
 
JazzyFresh said:
So you also agree it's an outlandish comment? My Trump friends aren't traitors, I'm just glad I have the audacity to stick up against such a stupid claim. My Democrats friends, even my alt left one or two aren't traitors either.
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OK, that's fair enough. By far, where your friends, and mine, are concerned. But his statement is not as outlandish as you would have it, IMO. Trump IS a security threat, and I just like @silesian's description that we are living in the "WTF era of American history". I found that a comical way of stating a certain truth.
 
Red said:
I do largely agree, but I just don't put 100% of Trump supporters in the category of traitors. Some no doubt are, some are in need of some serious education. And many simply don't understand how they have allowed a cynical demagogue to manipulate their fears, anger, and frustrations at the social and cultural war changes taking place in American society. I stated back in July of 2016 who Trump was, a demagogue, what the techniques of demagogues are, and how he would utilize the instincts of a demagogue to fool a large segment of the population. And I was 100% correct, because that is exactly what happened.

I thought the most succinct portion of @silesian's comment was we are living in the WTF era of American society. Got a good laugh out of that, in the sense that gallows humor can be funny at times and serve as a comic release valve.
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You called me a traitor and you know nothing about me. Nothing. You are nothing more that Trump in a different disguise in my eyes. I don't think you're a traitor. Like me I bet you love this country we just have different ideas to get there. Calling someone a traitor over that is 100% false and idiotic.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Well you obviously don't. I'm all for figuring out why Obama allowed Russia to interfere with our elections. Your quick to blame Trump for something that has been happening long before Trump.
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One of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations. If Obama had publicly, unilaterally discussed how Russia was influencing the election, you would have been all over him for acting in a partisan fashion. Why don't you ask why McConnell wouldn't agree to support Obama in condemning Russia, or blame Trump for welcoming Russian influence?
 
Red said:
OK, that's fair enough. By far, where your friends, and mine, are concerned. But his statement is not as outlandish as you would have it, IMO. Trump IS a security threat, and I just like @silesian's description that we are living in the "WTF era of American history". I found that a comical way of stating a certain truth.
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We'll be fine, I 100% promise. People said the same about Obama and his Radical Muslim ********. It was outlandish then it's equally fear mongering outlandish now.
 
One Brow said:
One of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations. If Obama had publicly, unilaterally discussed how Russia was influencing the election, you would have been all over him for acting in a partisan fashion. Why don't you ask why McConnell wouldn't agree to support Obama in condemning Russia, or blame Trump for welcoming Russian influence?
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Mitch and Obama both had enough chances and warning to take a firm stance and put an end to this. None of them did. I mean what did the FBI mean when they were belittling Trump and saying "we have a backup plan"? What was that backup plan?
 
JazzyFresh said:
Mitch and Obama both had enough chances and warning to take a firm stance and put an end to this. None of them did.
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Obama did, in private with Russia. However, he didn't arrest everyone who worked at social media, so bad on him?

JazzyFresh said:
I mean what did the FBI mean when they were belittling Trump and saying "we have a backup plan"? What was that backup plan?
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The back up plan was to buy her lots of roses and candy. You do realize you are talking about an agent who was trying to impress his girlfriend, right?
 
One Brow said:
So, you're acknowledging being a strong Trump supporter? That's progress.
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No, I'm anti alt-left and alt-right not pro Trump. I've never said a kind word about Trump but I do feel the Democratic party has become radicalized in extremism. Liberalism is dead in the water sadly and replaced with "do as I say or you're a traitor". It's truthfully sad.

PS this is what I was referring to.

"It's supporters like you that I would consider a traitor."

In other words he called me a traitor in frustration trying to hurt my feelings. It's strictly inability to control ones emotions.
 
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