The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Go ahead and show me where I said this.

Anyway, it sounds like you are fairly ignorant of Ukraine's recent history, and that of Shokin in particular. This article is a good primer.

https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

I figured it was implied by your comment that there has been no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of either Biden. If Trump or any of his associates are ever unwilling to answer one accusation or another people come out of the woodwork saying that their silence on the issue is evidence of their guilt. That doesn't work both ways?

 

[babe]

I'm not aware of the Covington High School thing, and none of what you typed supports the idea she's being coached or coerced in some way.

You couldn't possibly have missed that in the news, unless indeed you are so narrow-sighted as to know nothing but your daily sheet of talking points which you should indeed use for toilet paper on appropriate occasions.

 

[babe]

So you've got nothing. Figured as much lol.

like I said, about knowing what your script is good for.....

 

[babe]

In the above, pages, I think SirKickyAss has made the best contributions, though I think differently.... and while Zombie has no idea what he's talking about and doesn't even know when I'm trying to respond to SirKickyAss, it is probably going to be the fact that SirKickyAss will not respond to me, because he put me on ignore. I just want to try to get that point across for Archie and a few others who are actually interested in understanding the issues.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Go ahead and show me where I said this.

Anyway, it sounds like you are fairly ignorant of Ukraine's recent history, and that of Shokin in particular. This article is a good primer.

https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

BTW, I was already familiar with this article. I'd be interested to see actual evidence of Shokin's corruption rather than heresay. But as I said before, no matter how corrupt Shokin is, the Biden's have certainly put themselves into a sticky position with regard to the Ukraine. I have yet to see anyone provide evidence that Hunter was providing his client anything other than his father's influence. He apparently has no previous experience in the gas industry, no previous experience in Ukraine, several previous drug related charges, and no willingness to talk to anyone about this situation.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Hmmm, who to believe, Trump or Trump?

Is it that impossible for you to believe that more than one factor could have led to making a decision? Are all of your decisions based upon a single piece of information?

 

[fishonjazz]

Are the walls closing in?

We can only hope

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[Harambe]

BTW, I was already familiar with this article. I'd be interested to see actual evidence of Shokin's corruption rather than heresay. But as I said before, no matter how corrupt Shokin is, the Biden's have certainly put themselves into a sticky position with regard to the Ukraine. I have yet to see anyone provide evidence that Hunter was providing his client anything other than his father's influence. He apparently has no previous experience in the gas industry, no previous experience in Ukraine, several previous drug related charges, and no willingness to talk to anyone about this situation.

How exactly would you prove that?

 

[Zombie]

BTW, I was already familiar with this article. I'd be interested to see actual evidence of Shokin's corruption rather than heresay. But as I said before, no matter how corrupt Shokin is, the Biden's have certainly put themselves into a sticky position with regard to the Ukraine. I have yet to see anyone provide evidence that Hunter was providing his client anything other than his father's influence. He apparently has no previous experience in the gas industry, no previous experience in Ukraine, several previous drug related charges, and no willingness to talk to anyone about this situation.

What influence did Biden provide? Aside from pushing to get prosecutors who were willing to pursue corruption charges.

As for Shokin's corruption, you don't have to take our word for it. The current Ukrainian president plans to investigate him and other former prosecutors for their supposed corruption. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about the entire situation in the months to come.

 

[babe]

Dem characterizations of the unlawfulness and political implications of Trumps moves to get Ukrainian cooperation on investigating Biden might tip the scales for the inquiry Pelosi is indicating.

But imo so far I could know, the fact that Trump had no personal quid on the table, and the previous Ukraine leaders had sought to give help of a political character to Trump, proving Russian interference through Hillary and Obama and Biden, and Trump did not just take it, makes their case weak. The news about Biden and his son has been out there. He didn't need that politically. It would appear he was seeking high-level support for the DOJ and State Department and other US agencies already charged with US law enforcement. He has every right to do that. In fact, it is his duty to American citizens, as the head of the executive branch, to implement US law and enforce it.

It's pretty dicey. Ukraine making a play for their independence frrom both Russia and the US. Looks like, from Kicky's link above, the Russians have recovered their "in" with Ukraine, and Russia is in this to help the dems to oust Trump.

So all the stuff that the Ukraine did to help Hillary is OK. Wow.

This is a truly partisan hysteria now..... well..... it's been that.

 

[babe]

What influence did Biden provide? Aside from pushing to get prosecutors who were willing to pursue corruption charges.

As for Shokin's corruption, you don't have to take our word for it. The current Ukrainian president plans to investigate him and other former prosecutors for their supposed corruption. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about the entire situation in the months to come.

Sounds like regime change happened in the Ukraine. From Fascist to Russian ally socialist??? Damn right they're going to investigate their vanquished opponents, and throw them all in jail, maybe hang them all.

We should all just cheer.

Well, Zombie. You're good. Just following you gives me the real time script from your handlers.

 

[Zombie]

Sounds like regime change happened in the Ukraine. From Fascist to Russian ally socialist??? Damn right they're going to investigate their vanquished opponents, and throw them all in jail, maybe hang them all.

We should all just cheer.

Well, Zombie. You're good. Just following you gives me the real time script from your handlers.

Your cluelessness abounds. The "regime change" happened in 2014 with the Ukrainian Revolution which resulted in the ouster of Yanukovych who is currently in exile in Russia.

Neither Zelensky nor his predecessor Poroshenko are pro-Russia.