The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[JazzyFresh]

I read @JazzyFresh's posts and watch Fox News when I'm on the road for work and, I gotta say, are we at the point where the only Conservative response to all of this is just to sneer at anyone else who gives a ****?

Or to call people Nazi's. Don't forget that.

 

[Hotdog]

Easy test on whether this would be against the emoluments clause:

Would Trump defenders be defending the Clintons if they owned properties and were steering taxpayer dollars to their properties in the way the Trumps are?

A simple “Yes” or “No” would suffice.

No.

But since we just want to be biased and play sides, then defending Trump is necessary.

 

[Hotdog]

Judging by who started this thread, another Conservative response is to call for Trump's impeachment.

You arent a conservative if you stand with the socialists.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Tha

Judging by who started this thread, another Conservative response is to call for Trump's impeachment.

thats because you’re a conservative.

those trolling us here and on Fox are either republicans or grifters, they’re not conservatives. The devolution Tucker Carlson is exhibit A of this. He used to be libertarian, then became establishment republican, and is now hosting white nationalist hour. If the country swings left he’ll become a Bernie Sanders socialist if it means another million dollar contract.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Remember that one time I called Democrats a cult?

Wait that was Thriller about 20 minutes ago talking about Trump supporters.

 

[Jazzta]

Would anyone be surprised if there’s physical violence during the 2020 campaign rallies?

 

[Deleted member 365]

I read @JazzyFresh's posts and watch Fox News when I'm on the road for work and, I gotta say, are we at the point where the only Conservative response to all of this is just to sneer at anyone else who gives a ****?

the short answer to this is “Yes.”

the long answer is, what is the history and psychology behind political parties and movements where elements of empathy, intellectualism, and rule of constitutional law are rejected in favor of authoritarianism? Why do so many Americans prefer mocking those who give a damn? What is the future of our democracy when 30-40 percent of the country have sold the farm for this toxic cult that rejects the notion of a shared common set of facts and reality? How do democracies survive when such a significant portion of their population reject truth?

 

[JazzyFresh]

Remember that one time I called people who watch CNN "white nationalist"?

 

[sirkickyass]

Tha


thats because you’re a conservative.

There's kind of an interesting throughline with the "deplorables" thing. Because that obviously made a certain segment of the Trump Train identify with Trump more.

One of the Zizek books talks about a tendency in "rightist ideology" (not specifically Republican) to offer weakness or guilt as the identifying characteristic that causes people to align themselves with the leader of the party. As a result, when people point out the moral or temperamental flaw it actually is counter productive - it only makes people feel like the problematic figure is MORE like them and therefore more sympathetic.

For the Nazi party, the best example is Hitler's outbursts of rage - and specifically impotent rage. Those public performances were something that people recognized in themselves, and were therefore not disqualifying.

The other memorable example was Austrian politics in the 1980's, in which Kurt Waldheim pointedly refused to grapple with his past work as a Nazi intelligence officer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Waldheim

Political opponents tried to use this against him. But so much of the country had its own history of complicity with Nazi occupation that it was essentially a facet of the civil society that the country would never have an honest reckoning with its social and political history. A significant percentage of the populace could not, existentially, bring themselves to disqualify Waldheim because that would imply they had to do a reckoning of their own.

I see a lot of parallels with how race, gender, and white supremacy works in America and the appeal of Trump among those who voluntarily took on the "deplorable" label. A victory for Trump is a ratification of the idea that there will never be a reckoning. The appeal is personal and Trump is a symbolic object that people over-identify with. Everything else doesn't matter.

 

[fishonjazz]

Remember that one time I called Democrats a cult?

Wait that was Thriller about 20 minutes ago talking about Trump supporters.

Trump supporters, not Republicans.

I call the people who supported David koresh a cult.

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[fishonjazz]

Remember that one time I called people who watch CNN "white nationalist"?

Do people who watch CNN have the characteristics of white nationalists?

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[JazzyFresh]

Remember that one time I was having a civil conversation with Zombie and two guys who had absolutely nothing to say about the topic told me how stupid I was?