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Leaders from the world’s leading democracies came to an agreement Thursday to use frozen Russian assets to help provide Ukraine with some $50 billion over the next year in its ongoing war with Russia.

The agreement, which comes after months of intense diplomacy, was one of the top goals of the Group of Seven leaders

The use of Russian assets, which involves a complex mechanism to provide a loan with the seized assets as collateral, marked a victory for Biden and other leaders who had been hoping to use the summit to send a strong signal of support for Ukraine at a precarious moment in the war.

“This has been something that the United States has put a lot of energy and effort into,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters. “We see proceeds from these assets as a valuable source of resources for Ukraine at a moment when Russia continues to brutalize the country, not just through military action on the front but through the attempted destruction of its energy grid and its economic vitality.”

Sullivan credited Giorgia Meloni, Italy’s hard-right prime minister and host of this year’s G-7 summit, for navigating the thorny disputes among countries over the plan’s technical details.

“The Italian presidency I think has done a really good job bringing everyone together around the table to try to deal with what’s both a simple and complex proposition,” he said. “The simple proposition is, we have to put these assets to work. The complex proposition is, how do we do that specifically? I think we are on the verge of a good outcome here.”

The G-7 consists of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States. These countries have struggled with how to continue supporting Ukraine as its war with Russia bogs down and the public in some nations, including the United States, becomes more skeptical of sending aid to Kyiv.

In addition to Ukraine, the leaders are expected to discuss a U.S.-sponsored cease-fire plan for Gaza

Still, a reelected Donald Trump or any other future American president could withdraw from the agreement because it is not a treaty and would not be ratified by Congress. Trump has expressed skepticism of Ukraine’s battle with Russia and called on Europe to take on more of the burden of financing the war effort.

Trump’s potential return to the White House has hung over the conference here, with the possibility that this could be Biden’s last summit.

That has been a backdrop for one of Biden’s main messages here: the importance of global alliances for America’s interests.

“Every day subsequent to this summit, his goal is going to be to do as much as possible to reinforce the idea that the United States is best served if we are closely aligned with the our democratic allies and partners,” Sullivan said. “The difference between past times when the U.S. has not been aligned and what you’re going to see here in Puglia is something that can actually be measured, in my perspective, in improved American standing in the world.”
 
fishonjazz said:

Leaders from the world’s leading democracies came to an agreement Thursday to use frozen Russian assets to help provide Ukraine with some $50 billion over the next year in its ongoing war with Russia.

The agreement, which comes after months of intense diplomacy, was one of the top goals of the Group of Seven leaders

The use of Russian assets, which involves a complex mechanism to provide a loan with the seized assets as collateral, marked a victory for Biden and other leaders who had been hoping to use the summit to send a strong signal of support for Ukraine at a precarious moment in the war.

“This has been something that the United States has put a lot of energy and effort into,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters. “We see proceeds from these assets as a valuable source of resources for Ukraine at a moment when Russia continues to brutalize the country, not just through military action on the front but through the attempted destruction of its energy grid and its economic vitality.”

Sullivan credited Giorgia Meloni, Italy’s hard-right prime minister and host of this year’s G-7 summit, for navigating the thorny disputes among countries over the plan’s technical details.

“The Italian presidency I think has done a really good job bringing everyone together around the table to try to deal with what’s both a simple and complex proposition,” he said. “The simple proposition is, we have to put these assets to work. The complex proposition is, how do we do that specifically? I think we are on the verge of a good outcome here.”

The G-7 consists of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States. These countries have struggled with how to continue supporting Ukraine as its war with Russia bogs down and the public in some nations, including the United States, becomes more skeptical of sending aid to Kyiv.

In addition to Ukraine, the leaders are expected to discuss a U.S.-sponsored cease-fire plan for Gaza

Still, a reelected Donald Trump or any other future American president could withdraw from the agreement because it is not a treaty and would not be ratified by Congress. Trump has expressed skepticism of Ukraine’s battle with Russia and called on Europe to take on more of the burden of financing the war effort.

Trump’s potential return to the White House has hung over the conference here, with the possibility that this could be Biden’s last summit.

That has been a backdrop for one of Biden’s main messages here: the importance of global alliances for America’s interests.

“Every day subsequent to this summit, his goal is going to be to do as much as possible to reinforce the idea that the United States is best served if we are closely aligned with the our democratic allies and partners,” Sullivan said. “The difference between past times when the U.S. has not been aligned and what you’re going to see here in Puglia is something that can actually be measured, in my perspective, in improved American standing in the world.”
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Let’s be honest, if put to a vote in the House today, I doubt a multi year commitment to help Ukraine would pass. The pro Putin wing of the GOP would never let it pass. It’ll never stop being weird to see so many Americans sell out to Putin. All because they see him as a Christian conservative ally who hates blacks and gays and helps Trump in elections.
 
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Let’s be honest, if put to a vote in the House today, I doubt a multi year commitment to help Ukraine would pass. The pro Putin wing of the GOP would never let it pass. It’ll never stop being weird to see so many Americans sell out to Putin. All because they see him as a Christian conservative ally who hates blacks and gays and helps Trump in elections.
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Ha ha, pretty much.
 
fishonjazz said:

Leaders from the world’s leading democracies came to an agreement Thursday to use frozen Russian assets to help provide Ukraine with some $50 billion over the next year in its ongoing war with Russia.

The agreement, which comes after months of intense diplomacy, was one of the top goals of the Group of Seven leaders

The use of Russian assets, which involves a complex mechanism to provide a loan with the seized assets as collateral, marked a victory for Biden and other leaders who had been hoping to use the summit to send a strong signal of support for Ukraine at a precarious moment in the war.

“This has been something that the United States has put a lot of energy and effort into,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters. “We see proceeds from these assets as a valuable source of resources for Ukraine at a moment when Russia continues to brutalize the country, not just through military action on the front but through the attempted destruction of its energy grid and its economic vitality.”

Sullivan credited Giorgia Meloni, Italy’s hard-right prime minister and host of this year’s G-7 summit, for navigating the thorny disputes among countries over the plan’s technical details.

“The Italian presidency I think has done a really good job bringing everyone together around the table to try to deal with what’s both a simple and complex proposition,” he said. “The simple proposition is, we have to put these assets to work. The complex proposition is, how do we do that specifically? I think we are on the verge of a good outcome here.”

The G-7 consists of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States. These countries have struggled with how to continue supporting Ukraine as its war with Russia bogs down and the public in some nations, including the United States, becomes more skeptical of sending aid to Kyiv.

In addition to Ukraine, the leaders are expected to discuss a U.S.-sponsored cease-fire plan for Gaza

Still, a reelected Donald Trump or any other future American president could withdraw from the agreement because it is not a treaty and would not be ratified by Congress. Trump has expressed skepticism of Ukraine’s battle with Russia and called on Europe to take on more of the burden of financing the war effort.

Trump’s potential return to the White House has hung over the conference here, with the possibility that this could be Biden’s last summit.

That has been a backdrop for one of Biden’s main messages here: the importance of global alliances for America’s interests.

“Every day subsequent to this summit, his goal is going to be to do as much as possible to reinforce the idea that the United States is best served if we are closely aligned with the our democratic allies and partners,” Sullivan said. “The difference between past times when the U.S. has not been aligned and what you’re going to see here in Puglia is something that can actually be measured, in my perspective, in improved American standing in the world.”
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"Sullivan credited Giorgia Meloni, Italy’s hard-right prime minister and host of this year’s G-7 summit, for navigating the thorny disputes among countries over the plan’s technical details."

**** yeah Giorgia!
 
Speaking of Meloni, there's sexual tension between India and Italy. Well, at least from India towards Italy.



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Speaking of Meloni, there's sexual tension between India and Italy. Well, at least from India towards Italy.



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That's the married soon to be outgoing PM of the UK, Rishi Sunak, the ****ing mental giant that he is.

www.canberratimes.com.au

UK's Sunak cites growing up without Sky TV as hardship

The wealthiest prime minister in UK history has cited his parents' refusal to subscribe to Sky TV when...
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What a ****ing ****.
 
Ukraine is showing the world how bad Russian air defense systems are. Russia sells its S-400 air defense system for $1 billion dollars each. Ukraine has realized the Russian S-400 cannot shoot down ATACMS missiles even when the ATACMS is aimed straight at the S-400. Ukraine just hit another S-400 which I think brings the count to six knocked out in the past week. Russia only had 57 of these. The M39A1 ATACMS being used to take them out isn't our newest, most advanced munitions. These are pieces that have been collecting dust in military warehouses since the 1990's, and S-400 can't stop them.



www.forbes.com

Ukrainian ATACMS Rockets Are Blowing Up Russia’s Best S-400 Air Defenses As Fast As The S-400s Can Deploy To Crimea

A Ukrainian rocket raid on Tuesday may have knocked out three Russian radars.
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Sardines said:
If you watch one watch this one

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Why that one? It is an attractive girl telling you the sky is blue. I genuinely hope you learned nothing from her video because you already knew the Russians would use their weapons of war against civilian targets including hospitals where they treat children.

If you want to learn something, watch this one:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_AXrqPw6fM


War is different now. Tanks are not of great use. Ukraine doesn't want any more American Abrahams main battle tanks. They are relics. War is now fought with grenade-dropping quadcopters equipped with infrared imagers. Camouflaged uniforms don't hide you. Trees don't hide you. Digging a foxhole doesn't hide you. Falling asleep is deadly. If you didn't watch the video above, there are a couple Russian troops sleeping in a foxhole when a Ukrainian drone flies overhead in the middle of the night and drops a grenade between their heads as the operator says "sweet dreams" in Ukrainian. This generation of drones is so effective that Ukraine emptied their zone of human life.

The drones in testing now to be the next generation are AI driven. Jammers have no effect because the drone isn't communicating with anything after getting its targeting information. The operator designates a tank as a target then the drone does the approach on its own and hits the most vulnerable part of the vehicle or troop formation without external input.
 
I was in the process of posting this bit from a press conference where Joe Biden's weak stance arguably gave Putin the green light to invade Ukraine, but in watching it I was more shocked in how much Biden has diminished in 2 years. The guy in the clip could speak from notes on the podium instead of a teleprompter, and could take a question to clarify a position (even if he didn't really clarify it).



Biden was still old two years ago, but the contrast between the Biden in that clip and the Biden at the debate is shocking.
 
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