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A shooter who can't defend is not what I expected tbh but a move is a move.
 
KqWIN said:
Here's the thing about Orlando/tanking. Blowing it up doesn't mean you automatically get a great team in the future. Being a boarder line playoff team doesn't mean you are in purgatory forever and can only get out by being bad. There are just as many teams (if not more) that became good around the margins. There are also teams that tank year after year and don't get better.

Sounds, obvious....but the good FO's will build good teams with or without tanking. The bad FO's will build bad teams with or without tanking. ORL is probably in a better spot than they were before....but it takes a series of good moves to build a good team. Picks/assets are nice to talk about but don't mean anything if you can't execute.
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They were going nowhere and were close to the tax... were going to have to let Evan Fournier walk unless they wanted to be a tax team... If you are a tax team as a 7/8 seed that is a huge fail.

Tanking does not guarantee you get an all star, but it is the easiest and surest way to land a potential star... its just very very hard. Where tanking fails most often is teams can't stick with it for multiple years because it really sucks. Sixers missed on plenty of picks but stayed in the game long enough to get a couple stars and collect assets that were cashed in for other good players.

Where teams like Sacramento have failed is trying to short cut things at the wrong times and not falling down far enough. OKC executed the strategy correctly once and nailed many/all of the picks... they are nailing the front end of that deal again. Kings also past on Luka so there are a lot of ways dumb teams can **** up.

You can get lucky and pull a Giannis or Gobert too... but it is just harder to get two guys on the same timeline that way. I'm generally a believer in tanking... I mean part of the reason the Lakers had the assets to nab AD was that they tanked a few years. None of these strategies are guarantees... tanking has the best chances and the most upside imo.
 
"Sometimes no move is the best move."

I've been saying buyout market is where it's at for months now. What's the purpose of this move? If this becomes a "well, we couldn't sign OPJ because we didn't have a roster spot" then it's a big LOL.
 
Dude shoots the lights out. He is truly one of the best shooters in the league and he even got minutes on a team that didn't play any non-defender so he has got some value.
 
FAILED STATE said:
Thomas can shoot.... but where teh **** is he getting minutes?

my first thought is that he’ll be used down the stretch here as we load manage.
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He has this year and next year left on his deal... Maybe this is insurance this year but we open up some time for him next year?

It is whatever, but we can use that extra roster spot for a specialist that gives us something we need.. a perimeter defender would be nice.
 
KqWIN said:
Here's the thing about Orlando/tanking. Blowing it up doesn't mean you automatically get a great team in the future. Being a boarder line playoff team doesn't mean you are in purgatory forever and can only get out by being bad. There are just as many teams (if not more) that became good around the margins. There are also teams that tank year after year and don't get better.

Sounds, obvious....but the good FO's will build good teams with or without tanking. The bad FO's will build bad teams with or without tanking. ORL is probably in a better spot than they were before....but it takes a series of good moves to build a good team. Picks/assets are nice to talk about but don't mean anything if you can't execute.
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Right.

I would just stress that Orlando’s build never made sense, they tried longer than enough to see that, and they strangely didn’t have a lot of opportunities for young player despite not being good.

In other words, they are precisely the result of poor execution. Hopefully for them their next process will be a better one.
 
Hekate said:
Dude shoots the lights out. He is truly one of the best shooters in the league and he even got minutes on a team that didn't play any non-defender so he has got some value.
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He has some value for sure... I'll bet we could get a second rounder for him.
 
never heard of the Matt Thomas but if he can shoot great but where does he get minutes. Denver and Portland improved in my opinion and so did Philly.
 
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