Trade deadline discussion

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don’t disagree with that. What I’m saying is that even though that’s the case, do you see Quin putting in an Ennis over a Niang, especially having not tried it out much during the season outside of garbage time / injury? I think to crack Quin’s rotation you’ve got to have a legit resume. He’s Thibbsing guys until the game is almost done and we’re up big on the first night of a back-to-back.

Ennis has over 7500 NBA regular season minutes. He's started 126 NBA games. He's played in 22 playoff games. He's got a solid resume, so I could definitely see him taking over Niang's minutes basically right away.

 

[LoPo]

We are having an incredible season. In my opinion, here is how our roster sits:

Should not be available in any deal:
Rudy
Don
Joe
Royce
Clarkson

If he is leaving this summer, wants too much or we are offered a deal we can't refuse:
Conley

Available for the right deal:
Favors
Bogey
Niang
Udoka

I think Ersan could come in and give what Bogey is giving many nights. Bogey is better for sure, but Ersan can provide cover. That goes for Favors too to a certain degree.

Bogey still has value. Teams like Charlotte, NY, and Atlanta are desperate for relevance. I could see them wanting a guy like Bogey for the right price.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

We are having an incredible season. In my opinion, here is how our roster sits:

Should not be available in any deal:
Rudy
Don
Joe
Royce
Clarkson

If he is leaving this summer, wants too much or we are offered a deal we can't refuse:
Conley

Available for the right deal:
Favors
Bogey
Niang
Udoka

I think Ersan could come in and give what Bogey is giving many nights. Bogey is better for sure, but Ersan can provide cover. That goes for Favors too to a certain degree.

Bogey still has value. Teams like Charlotte, NY, and Atlanta are desperate for relevance. I could see them wanting a guy like Bogey for the right price.

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Stfu bout Conley. Who cares if he walks? Jazz competing for a ring now. You don't trade the league leader in +/- mid season

 

[LoPo]

Stfu bout Conley. Who cares if he walks? Jazz competing for a ring now. You don't trade the league leader in +/- mid season

I don't want to trade the guy. I'm leaving it up to the Front Office to make that call. I didn't put him with "available" guys like Bogey and Favors for a reason. I listed the reasons the FO might have to consider trading him while his value is so high.

Stop being so defensive over Conley dude. And definitely stop coming up with a stat to rationalize value. If we lost Rudy, Conley's +/- would be irrelevant. We wouldn't be a home court playoff team. Same could be said for Don. Probably the same could be said for Clarkson and maybe even Joe too. Conley is having a nice season, but keep things in perspective. If the FO thinks Conley is worth trading to get a Jerami Grant, Siakim, even Marcus Smart, you have to consider it.

I honestly don't think we should make any substantial trade, but I could understand if we do.

 

[NAOS]

A team trading for Siakam has to be willing to pay $35M/year for a 2nd or 3rd banana-type player. That's a big contract, and there aren't a lot of teams who would do it. A handful maybe.

When the Thunder finally traded Chris Paul, who was a proven All Star and team floor-raiser, they got Kelly Oubre, Ricky Rubio, Ty Jerome, Jalen Lecque and a 2022 first-round pick. I'm sure the Raptors would like the moon for Siakam, but it might not be out there for them. They're likely to hold onto him for a while, assuming he doesn't sulk and throw a fit like James Harden did when the Rockets were tearing down.

Do you know what the Raptors have been through this year? Uriji isn’t jumping to conclusions based on recent evidence.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we could sneak into the Philly Toronto deal I’d give Bojan up for Danny Green... toss Ujiri a second rounder for his trouble. That’s the type of defender I think could make a difference for us and we. Oils limit his minutes now and have him fresh as a ****ing daisy for the playoffs.

 

[LoPo]

I'd hate to lose Favors from a locker room perspective, but finding a way to get Marcus Smart in that Boston/Orlando Aaron Gordon deal would be wise. Maybe...

Boston gets Gordon
Utah gets Smart
Orlando gets Favors, Udoka, draft assets from Boston and draft assets from Utah

We would then go out and get the best big man available using an exception (we have a $5 million and a $3.5 million exception).

 

[fishonjazz]

Apparently the Pacers are listening to offers on Brogdon.

I love Brogdon a whole lot. We don't know what's gonna happen with Mike, Brogdon could conceivably play the 3, and we could probably use someone to shore up the Jingles role as he ages.

Again, Jazz probably don't have the assets, there'd probably have to be a third team involved, but I'd try if I were them.

I too like brogdon a lot..... But not as a 3. We are already too small, I don't want to go smaller.

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[LoPo]

I too like brogdon a lot..... But not as a 3. We are already too small, I don't want to go smaller.

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I agree. We already seem reluctant to play Conley off the bench. If we get an undersized guard, it's risky to get a guy like Brogdon who expects to start. Could hurt the chemistry of the team.

Brogdon would only seem to make sense if Conley is used to get him. And I don't think that is very likely at all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we could sneak into the Philly Toronto deal I’d give Bojan up for Danny Green... toss Ujiri a second rounder for his trouble. That’s the type of defender I think could make a difference for us and we. Oils limit his minutes now and have him fresh as a ****ing daisy for the playoffs.

Gross. I'm 100% against any move that lowers the teams ceiling.

 

[LoPo]

Gross. I'm 100% against any move that lowers the teams ceiling.

I agree with this. Bogey gives us a better chance to win than Danny Green. We need a Danny Green type player, but not at the expense of Bogey.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't want to trade the guy. I'm leaving it up to the Front Office to make that call. I didn't put him with "available" guys like Bogey and Favors for a reason. I listed the reasons the FO might have to consider trading him while his value is so high.

Stop being so defensive over Conley dude. And definitely stop coming up with a stat to rationalize value. If we lost Rudy, Conley's +/- would be irrelevant. We wouldn't be a home court playoff team. Same could be said for Don. Probably the same could be said for Clarkson and maybe even Joe too. Conley is having a nice season, but keep things in perspective. If the FO thinks Conley is worth trading to get a Jerami Grant, Siakim, even Marcus Smart, you have to consider it.

I honestly don't think we should make any substantial trade, but I could understand if we do.

The point is we are weakening the team by trading Conley. We won’t get close to his value as he’s on or getting to the down side of his career and my only be a half season rental to whoever trades for him. A Conley trade likely takes us out of contention, and maybe he signs for a little cheaper here than anywhere else. He’s made his money, maybe he’d like to ride things out in Utah, but who knows.