Trade deadline discussion

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Murmurs in Orlando are saying that Otto Porter is staying with them rather than seeking a buyout.

 

[NAOS]

Murmurs in Orlando are saying that Otto Porter is staying with them rather than seeking a buyout.

You’re just seeing negotiating tactics at this point. The parties have barely shaken hands. And nothing about Orlando right now says, “Yeah, you definitely want to be here.”

 

[jom2003]

Backup centers who can play decent basketball are rare.

Yes backup centers who play decent basketball are rare.

And anyone who watch Jazz ball will tell you that Favors isn't one of them. He's been rather underwhelming thus far and only reason it hasn't hurt the Jazz was because he played very few minutes. And our offensive/defensive ratings have been dreadful with him on the floor compared to Rudy.

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Advance metrics also give him a Real plus minus of -1.78, good for 55th in the league amongst all centers, tied with Demarcus Cousins who got cut from the Rockets for his...... general awfulness?

 

[jom2003]

Murmurs in Orlando are saying that Otto Porter is staying with them rather than seeking a buyout.

he's not some all-star who only needs a ring to prove his case. He's taking his money.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You’re just seeing negotiating tactics at this point. The parties have barely shaken hands. And nothing about Orlando right now says, “Yeah, you definitely want to be here.”

He will assess the situation... if he can get out of his deal without giving back too much I think he will have his pick of many different good situations. If he says he's definitely seeking a buyout they may dig in for mo money. Slow play it a little.

 

[416Klawzz]

This was our opportunity to swing for the fences, we just have too many glaring weaknesses without any upgrades. Our window of opportunity with the older players are slowly closing

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This was our opportunity to swing for the fences, we just have too many glaring weaknesses without any upgrades. Our window of opportunity with the older players are slowly closing

Bruh we got Matty Ice... we gonna run all small shooting guards... it gonna be lit AF.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This was our opportunity to swing for the fences, we just have too many glaring weaknesses without any upgrades. Our window of opportunity with the older players are slowly closing

The Jazz are a team with a bunch of good players, but could really stand to consolidate a few of them into a great player. Historically, they've been a pretty conservative franchise though. They tend not to rock the boat. I don't see some obvious opportunity that they missed out on. There wasn't a great player on the market worth disrupting the status quo for. I'm sure there was interest around the league for Royce, but the return might not have been good enough to justify moving him.

Ultimately the Jazz should be looking for a dynamic, two-way wing to play between Mitchell and Gobert. Until then, we have our usual assortment of Ingles, Royce and Bogdanovic, which isn't bad.

Jazz are going to do their thing, play the analytics game and expect Mitchell and Gobert to make big plays to close games.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think the Jazz would have needed to offer Bogdanovic, Royce O'Neale and a pick to Orlando to take back Aaron Gordon and another player (e.g., Aminu or Ross).

Wouldn't have been worth it unless you're totally sold on Aaron Gordon.

 

[One Brow]

And anyone who watch Jazz ball will tell you that Favors isn't one of them. He's been rather underwhelming thus far and only reason it hasn't hurt the Jazz was because he played very few minutes. And our offensive/defensive ratings have been dreadful with him on the floor compared to Rudy.

There are maybe ten other centers in the NBA who would not have a dreadful comparison with Gobert, and I don't think it's even that many. We don't get a Gobert to back up Gobert. Who in the league gets a positive Real Plus/Minus with Gobert on the other side of that?

Favors has a 20 PER and a .246 WS/48. We can play the same defense with him on the court as with Gobert, and it's not terrible. If he's so terrible, who's a better back-up in the league?

 

[whatthe]

I think the Jazz would have needed to offer Bogdanovic, Royce O'Neale and a pick to Orlando to take back Aaron Gordon and another player (e.g., Aminu or Ross).

Wouldn't have been worth it unless you're totally sold on Aaron Gordon.

Too risky. It's all on Brantley/Oni now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There was no deal today that made me think "we could/should have done that". The Thomas trade is fine... hopefully we get some buyout love but I'm 90% sure this is our team.